If I ever think I’ll go hard core libertarian, I’ll just re-read this cartoon and laugh at myself:

http://www.leftycartoons.com/if-housepets-were-libertarians/

Jack

Is this even legal?

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124148012581385199.html

Move your 401k into tresuries, Now!

Like you, Jack I am the “third type” of Libertarian. In fact though I’ve always been registered to vote, I refused to join any party until 3 years ago when I took the stand and became a “card carryin’ Libertarian.”

Just some friendly tips … I enjoy your shows but a few times I think you used different words than the ones you may have meant. I’m not trying to be snarky or a smart-***, just helpful for when you are next interviewed:

“expose” – I think you meant, “espouse”
“in consort” – I think you meant, “in concert”

Again, not trying to flame or be condescending, just some friendly observations. Keep up the great work. 🙂

BTW is the answer to your question, “Truman?” I believe he drew down forces & military spending after WWII.

Can you take a poll to see what party most survivalists on the forum consider themselves to be? I would be interested to see the results.

@DA

That cartoon is really not very well thought out. Do dogs in the wild need owners to look after them? No.. They provide for themselves. Do the fish in the wild need a filter? No.. Nature works with them to provide breathable water.

They\’re independent, and while they are wild animals not capable of knowing what liberty, and freedom are, I bet they are JUST as happy(If not happier than some)as a pet in a home with people.

LandRaider

There\\\’s no use talking to D.A. Some people need the government to tell them what to do next or give them their next handout. They are afraid to bite the hand that feeds them.

@Doomfisher – I think Modern Survival and I had a respectful conversation, with good points made (and acknowledged) on both parties. Assuming an entire mindset – I want government to tell me what to do – even when I said I agree with much of what my libertarian friends say, is a huge overreach. Conversation like what Modern Survival provided helps me to understand more. In any subject, assumptions and self-righteousness turn people away.

Will it make me a libertarian! God I hope so!

A libertarian or a Libertarian? They aren’t the same thing.

After a previous flirtation with the LP, I can’t imagine anything that would ever lead me to be a member of it. If anything, survivalism should logically lead you to be more of an independent rather than a member of a national party.

Survivalism will make you very independant and then you will turn into a libertarian in some form or fashion. It has made me so independant I could never sign on to ANY political party again. I will continue to vote, but I will evaluate the person running for office and what they stand for independantly of looking at a letter behind the name. This includes Libertarian candidates, because there are a things about the party platform that actually give me problems. Survivalism has made me the little l not the big L.
Thanks Jack, for another great podcast.

I have some libertarian leanings but I also work for the federal government. It can be an uncomfortable position to be in at times. Over time I have refined my views on what the role of government should be. It is a very complicated issue. First of all Medicare, defense, interest on the debt, and social security take up over 80% of the federal budget. When people say slash government 50% but don’t touch these programs they are advocating deficit spending. If your against government attack these items first. All the departments you see as federal government (FBI, NASA, NIH, EPA, Transportation, Education, State) take up less than 20% of the budget. Now I know that survivalist don’t need the government but do you want to have diplomats? Do you want to buy meat or peanut butter from a place that hasn’t been inspected? Do you want people dumping crap into the air and water that will give you cancer? Do you want safe effective drugs? Do you want air traffic controllers? Do you want someone watching the banks and stock market to make sure that you are not being robed? Do you want the FBI to catch bank robbers? Do you want criminals kept in prisons? In these examples I listed some places where the government failed because you see that you do need government to do its job correctly. I agree that we need to rein in government but I want people to think about it rather than shout slash government 50 % without thinking.

The problems with government inefficiency and incompetence are due to many factors. One of the biggest ones is that it is very difficult to fire federal employees. This was done to prevent huge turn over after every election. We also have political correctness limiting us. We have a lot of old, disabled people who can’t do the job but we can’t do anything about it. Another problem is congress and the budget. Congress has the power of the purse and it is very defensive of this power. If congress budgets money for something that is not needed you have to do it anyway because that is the law. If we could change these things then we could make government much more efficient. Government is necessary but we need a smaller more efficient government.

Great show Jack.
It makes me think about that DHS report that came out about “who is a potential terrorist”. It seams that they put in there alot of qualities of people that are upset at what the govt has become and the power they have. People that want to live by the constitution. People that flat out just don’t agree with them and there for are threats to them and they’re power. Those people are coming out more and more. I think the people need to get back in control. Easier said than done I guess.

Here is a news flash for all those that think the FBI still chases bank robbers….They don’t. In my jurisdiction we usually have a couple bank robberies a week on average. I have not seen a FBI agent come out to a bank robbery seen since 9/11. We have a 99.9% catch rate of bank robbers here, and none have been charged federally since 9/11. the FBI “no longer has the agents” to address this issue and leave it up to the locals. With 9/11 everything has changed,I don’t know how to explain it, but the interaction between local jurisdictions and the fed has changed. I guess it is more of a mentality shift. Local departments are still concerned with day to day crime affecting the citizens, and the Feds come in under “Homeland Security” and tell locals how they are going to run their departments. This hurts everybody.
It is the main reason I don’t care for the Feds, and I have some friends that are Feds, they now bully the local departments. I have seen this first hand and it just got worse with the stimulus money.

Being a Libertarian has only opened my eyes to what is REALLY going on in this country. I have seen this coming for many years. It made me aware that I was the only one I could count on to preserve my family.
If you are against survivalism,I have only one question to ask..” Name one politician in Washington who is actually representing his/her constituants rather than representing his/her own interests.”