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Can we still “Wake People Up” at this Point? – Epi-3562 — 2 Comments

  1. I came up with 10 concepts related to the psychology of this type of situation and why it is often hard to talk to people about these things. I don’t always try to convince people anymore but it is a moving target. This is clear because the number of conspiracy theorists has dramatically increased because of circumstances. I didn’t wake them up but they appeared on the scene nonetheless.

    I do have specific reasons why I take a political position which I sometimes mention. I can tell you why I left the democrat party and why I didn’t like Obama specifically. If people don’t believe in conspiracies, I may mention that it seems obvious that MLK was killed by the government, some of the details of the gulf of Tonkin or obvious crimes of the FBI. I just do that to try to take the position that conspiracies exist and maybe leave it at that

    The 10 concepts:

    1 – People trust the government and institutions

    2 – people are influenced by propaganda and don’t believe in conspiracies

    3 – people have a political bias

    4 – many subjects related to current events involve sensitive topics that are not always easy to discuss

    5 – people often have a need to demonize someone

    6 – people have a desire that their beliefs translate into political power or have a sense of nationalism in relation to that

    7 – there is a desire for cordial relations rather than argue with people

    8 – people tend to rationalize things

    9 – many things are complex

    10 – many people express apathy or a lack of interest in understanding things

  2. After many years of trying to boot people out of the matrix, I would say NO. During the Bush/Obama era I did podcasts, wrote articles, passed out DVDs, called my Congress critters, and howled at the moon. And the resounding effect of all my gnashing and wailing? Crickets. People who called into our shows would usually be one of two types. Either they would be mindless idiots who’d yelp out the typical ‘you’re a crazy conspiracy loon’, or they’d say, ‘well you’re kinda right, but your big bad guy is all wrong. It’s really the ___ who’s behind the curtain. So you’re just a shill, blah blah blah.’

    And now 15+ years later alternative media is basically dead. The internet has successfully shifted people over to controlled media platforms. People don’t follow media or information on their own any more. They are ‘directed’ to consume that which is available on said platforms. Blogs, podcasts, and the the like don’t have the effect or the reach they once had, mainly because of the effort one has to go through to find the information.

    I could go on for hours about that, but the way I could summarize it is sports teams. How many people do you know had the Dodgers as their favorite baseball team for their entire childhood, then suddenly switched over to liking the Rangers or the Yankees? Yeah, probably not too many. People seem pre-destined to think and act a certain way, influence or information be damned. I can’t tell you how many times I’d digest news, read articles, then spout off some finely tuned argument with all the right data, and the person I’d be speaking to would just say, ‘oh that’s from some conspiracy site, that’s all been debunked by CNN.’

    The frog in the pan metaphor definitely still persists. If you went back 30 years in a time machine and showed people in that time things that are currently happening now, they’d lose their minds. But since we’ve had mission creep where information and trends shift very slowly, people don’t notice. Sometime down the road we WILL see martial law in American cities, gun confiscation, and probably nuclear exchanges between world powers. And you know what? People will accept it as normal and maybe even necessary. Events and human behavior are always going to be manipulated into a status quo because of things like cognitive dissonance and normalcy bias.

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