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Benjamin Brewer
Benjamin Brewer
4 years ago

Maybe I need to fold up my tin foil hat; but what is to prevent drive through testing from becoming a national DNA database?

surfivor
surfivor
4 years ago

So much about the medical system we have seems like a lot of brainwashing and all kinds of questionable treatments and overpriced cures with horrible side effects. I find it nearly maddening to behold sometimes and the extent of the brainwashing as well. Of course it’s complex and that’s one of the problems but if something might actually work that’s cheap, I would half expect some phony study to say it has been debunked or something

Evelyn Mitchell
Evelyn Mitchell
4 years ago

Jack,

 

This could get tied up for weeks with them trying to broaden the scope of authority beyond trials of known drugs and therapies.

 

Evelyn

Kyle Smith
Kyle Smith
4 years ago

In hospitalized adult patients with severe Covid-19, no benefit was observed with lopinavir–ritonavir treatment beyond standard care.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2001282

Chad
4 years ago

Chloroquine is safe and it’s been used for a long. long time. I readily available; I have some sitting in my lab right now. Trials are good but there’s no reason to wait for it on this.

I’ve already seen the confusion on social media about Plasmodium (malaria) not being a virus, therefore this won’t work, blah, blah, blah.

Because of chloroquine’s unique mode of action, it has been used before as an anti-viral and has gotten positive results against certain flaviviruses, retroviruses, and coronaviruses. This is old news.

Mode of action: http://www.tulane.edu/~wiser/protozoology/notes/drugs.html

 

Adriana
Adriana
4 years ago

Not sure the appropriate place to post this tidbit…but i have quite a few relatives in Italy, the recent coronoavirus hotspot. ONE of the other big reasons italy has been SO hard hit (beyond the culturally physical contact) and older population of people…is the amount of buisness ties with China, particularly in Northern Italy. This was the report from my cousins…making me aware that scores of Chinese folks have bought up and built up there buisnesses there, near the high fashion sectors. Apparently, many of these Chinese travel ofter back and forth to China, thus the virus spread, likely unawares. There also seems to have been strenthening ties btwn Chinese and Italian gov’t over the last few years.  Bad timing i reckon.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WtXe1CpvqWYhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nomeY_0bJYQ

 

surfivor
surfivor
4 years ago

 

Jack,

You are often seem to say how you don’t like Trump. You should give him some credit where he contradicts the leading government expert Anthony Fauci in this news conference. I don’t think any of the last 4 presidents we have had would ever go anywhere so far as this. Trump basically says he is very optimistic about Chloroguine and Fauci keeps going on there and contradicting him and all the liberals I am sure think people like you and Trump are just ignorant redneck know nothings. They are constantly laughing at you and Trump because they always believe all of the sophisticated sounding dressed up science. I think people should stand up and speak out more and promote the facts that are out there and expose the phony FDA more. To hell with ignoring everything going on

 

https://news.yahoo.com/fauci-tempers-trumps-optimism-on-chloroquine-use-for-coronavirus-181035811.html

surfivor
surfivor
4 years ago

Kudos Jack !

adriana
adriana
4 years ago

One more article, from the NewAmerican why things are so bad in Italy, and (thus not as likely) to result here in the USA…summarizes it beautifully…

https://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/35202-italy-the-real-reasons-a-chinese-virus-is-ravaging-a-european-people

 

USCPrepper
USCPrepper
4 years ago

I signed the petition, but I’m absolutely shocked with your audience as to how few did.  If Jack Spirko says to sign a petition, holy crap, something is seriously wrong… 😉

Although, I don’t think Covid 19 is as big of a deal as you do.  Looking at the accidental case study of the Diamond Princess Cruise.  Even if you’re in a tight area with a lot of sick people, you still have a low likelihood of getting it.  And even if you’re old, as was virtually everyone on that ship, your death rate is about 1% if you do catch it.  If I was over 65, and a chain smoker, and working in an office with a bunch of people that have Covid 19, is be worried.  I have an employee whose wife fits that description.  I’m worried for her… however, everyone else… just needs to get back to work, this is ridiculous.  And if this petition helps then more power to it.

amir
amir
4 years ago

https://www.veteranstoday.com/2020/03/23/chloroquine-is-a-very-very-high-risk-treatment-for-covid-19/

Chloroquine is NOT the same as hydroxychloroquine. But even hdroxycholoroquine is not turning out to be a panacea: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/21/hydroxychloroquine-study-va-hospitals-finds-no-cor/

Unfortunately, I think our president spoke ahead of the facts in this case.

amir
amir
4 years ago

Hmm, got it.  The studies are focused on outcomes when the study administered the drug at the wrong time.  Thanks for the followup response. Do you have resources that show when people should start taking hydroxychloroquine+zinc?  The moment a pulse oximeter shows dropping oxygen levels?  At the first sign of a headache/cough/etc?  Maybe we don’t know with Covid.  At any rate, given the documented side effects, doesn’t seem like we should propagate wide scale taking of the drug as a prophylactic…but taken like the morning-after pill after exposure or when you start to have symptoms?