Episode-1898- Looking into the Trump Years — 25 Comments

  1. Nice podcast but I was waiting till you mentioned Ukraine and Russia. Then I cringed.

    Real shame you took that stance Jack, with you having a Ukrainian surname and know the Russian yoke over Ukraine over many centuries. Reading history books, always wondered why no one helped Ukraine. Forget the corrupt politicians. Think about the people.

    Ill point you in this direction so you dont think Im flaming you here.

    can find his articles here,

    Putin’s Libertarians

    Nine Lessons of Russian Propaganda
    Roman Skaskiw
    After visiting repeatedly, I moved to Ukraine from the United States in 2012. My parents had been born in Ukraine and taught me some of the language during my childhood in Queens, NY.

    Being so close to Ukraine’s Maidan revolution and the subsequent Russian invasion gave me perspective on American perception of these events. The audacity and effectiveness of Russian propaganda has left me in utter awe. After two years of close observation, some strategies and motifs of Russian propaganda have become evident. Hopefully these lessons will lend some clarity on the information war which overlays the kinetic one.

    Roman Skaskiw served six years an infantry officer which included combat deployments to Afghanistan and Iraq with the 82nd Airborne Division, and another deployment to Afghanistan with the Kunar Provincial Reconstruction Team. He has lived in Ukraine since 2012. His work has appeared in The Atlantic, the New York Times’ Homefires blog, the Daily Beast, Stanford Magazine, the Des Moines Register, in Fire and Forget and Home of the Brave — anthologies of military fiction, and elsewhere. He has appeared on NPR’s Talk of the Nation, the John Batchelor Show, Iowa Public Radio, and elsewhere.

    his website with variety of things

    • I have a little different take on this. The US made a promise to the Ukrainians with the Budapest Memorandum for entering into the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons. We have to stand by that commitment. And no, I can not consider that to be an intervention because, at the time, even though those nukes were no longer on Soviet soil, they were still pointed at us and Russia still had the trigger. When you look at all the times in recent history that we have made promises to stand with allies and walked away when things got tough, it is no wonder that our respect as a nation has greatly diminished in the eyes of the world.
      I think that this fact is one of the leading causes of many of the problems we are seeing internationally and at home today. The last time that we, really our government, had that kind of respect was with Reagan. If you remember, Ayatollah Khomeini released the hostages between the election and inauguration. I really don’t think we deserved that respect at the time because we had just turned our back on South Vietnam but Reagan came across as a man of resolve, a man of honor. Since that time, we have turned our back on the Iraqi’s, the Somali’s and the Afghani’s multiple times. Is it any wonder that the islamic radicals are so embolden?

      A man that does not keep is word deserves no respect and will not be respected.
      A nation that does not keep is word deserves no respect and will not be respected.

      With that said, we made no promises to the Syrians so let them fight it out on their own. As long as they are fighting, it will help keep the price at the pump down which is good for us. If things in the region stabilize, the price will go up and if we produce enough domestically to pressure the market, that could be good for our energy sector and our economy as a whole.

      • And Yury, I forgot to add that buy now you should realize that Jack is a man of principle. THAT is why he garners the respect of this community. Even though I disagree with his stance on this issue, among a few others, I can still consider and respect his opinions and will be open to changing a position if convinced. His position is that we as a nation should not be interfering in things that are not our business. If he were swayed from those convictions because his name sounded like theirs, he would quickly lose that respect and his audience. There are atrocities happening all over the world every day and many are direct or indirect results of our misguided intervention and the subsequent lack of follow through. Those are pretty hard facts to argue with.

        So, I agree with you on the what and disagree your why and at the same time Disagree with Jacks what but agree with his why.

    • I agree with almost everything Jack said in this episode .. The whole democratic deal with Syria, Russia, the Ukraine, Libya and all has made me really upset with the left more than anything and the political correctness stuff is really bad as well ..

  2. The real reason for the Trump election was because of the American Median Income which has declined more that 6% since the year 2000. That is with the b.s. CPI numbers used for adjusted dollars. If they used more accurate numbers it would be way more than a 6% decline in purchasing power. People in the rust belt are pissed off because free trade has wrecked the regional economy and Hillary was promising more of the same while Trump was promising to blow up the global economic system that put the screws to them repeatedly over the last 30 to 40 years. That is why he got elected. Nothing more and nothing less. Will he fix everything? Nope. But maybe, just maybe he can start that snowball on top of the mountain of positive change for the old middle class and give it a good shove.

    • I agree. The main turning point for many voters was just to say “more of the same” Hillary or something different with Trump. I don’t think either of these candidates had solid support, so most of the voting was not for someone, but against the other one. So as a guess, I’d say, 10% voted for Trump, 10% voted for Hillary and 40% voted against Trump and 40% voted against Hillary. Some of the later two groups voted for Independents.

  3. Great show Jack! I do hope we see more privatization in the infrastructure process. Thank you for all you do.

  4. I couldn’t agree more about Russia. And it was actually Putin who reached out to Trump from what I have gathered. They seem to be very much looking forward to working together to smooth relations. With regard to Ukraine and Crimea, I highly recommend this video to get the Russian perspective. Of course RT is a Russian state sponsored channel but the video, I think, speaks for itself. Cheers.

    • I would be happy if we finally stopped the CIA from giving weapons to a group of rebels who are fighting another group of rebels getting their guns from the DOD… As a sales model it’s probably pretty good if you can sell to both sides, but I have a feeling we aren’t getting paid for those weapons. LOL

  5. Jack, where did you find reference to Apple holding it’s money in China? I have seen multiple references to the bulk of Apple’s reserves in Ireland, but nothing about China. Were you thinking of the failing sales of Apple in China?

    • I am going to have to take the lack of a reply to this question, which has been asked twice now, to mean NO. In fact, I will go so far as to assume that he realized that he left his ammo in the truck just as the sun came up, quietly got out of the stand, got his ammo and spooked what have been the new Boone & Crockett typical record buck that was standing 30 feet from the stand when he returned.

  6. Jack –

    Not sure if the GOP voters got upset so much as the Democrats marketing sucked. Let’s take a look at the voting numbers:

    McCain: 59,934,814
    Obama: 69,456,897

    Romney: 60,589,084 (+654,270 from 2008)
    Obama: 65,446,032 (-4,010,865 from 2008)

    Trump: 61,252,488 (+663,404 from 2012)
    Clinton: 62,414,338 (-3,031,694 from 2012)

    In 2008, Barack Obama received a record 69.4M votes. Since then the Democratic Party has lost over 7M votes (4M from 2008 to 2012 and 3M from 2012 to 2016) while the Republican party has gained a paltry 650-660K votes each year.

    Basically what we’re looking is the Republican votes have grown roughly in concert with population growth while the Democratic votes has decrease significantly.

    Could this be a sign of the Republicans essentially maintaining the status quo but the Democrats not believing what they’re being sold? Obviously they aren’t converting to Republican votes…they’re just not turning out like they did 4- and 8-years ago.


  7. Jack,

    Man you echo’d my thoughts on this so much. I don’t know if their will be a net amount of less government when he is done (probably not as there are still plenty of assclowns in congress), but his understanding of business and desire to get government out of the way of business so businesses can grow and become more profitable, is encouraging. His talk of less regulation in other areas is encouraging that the slider moves toward more liberty.

    During the second debate, the question about a Supreme Court Justice came up. He mentioned a justice that would uphold the constitution, she mentioned upholding values. The former outlook lines up with my “values”.

    His talk of stop-and-frisk being acceptable is egregious. I also agree that he’ll fall right in line with any “Patriot Act” type measures in the name of common good. Not awesome.

    Now back to my intersecting circles.


    • One additional note as to “Why this happened”:

      Heard some discussion on this and it does have enough weight to seem plausible against the B.S. filter.

      The pre-election polling was thrown off because some people who voted for Trump wouldn’t openly express their support in public, for fear of the venom and vitriol levied their way: “You support a racist?!!”, “He’s a womanizer and you support him?!!!”, etc etc.

      The lashing out (sore loser, violence is ok when we don’t agree, you can’t do that I won’t allow you) that we see post election was present pre election as well.

      Don’t know if these pollsters promised anonymity to the polees or not, but even if all of those polled were promised obscurity to their identity, I still feel there is some substance to this hypothesis.

  8. Thank you for the song. I’ve been trying to figure out why I’ve been so irritable, and the song just hit home. Turned off the TV, Turned off FB (mostly – had to check out pictures of grandkids and new grandbaby), Turned off the Radio. Even turned off TSP (I usually do my night rounds catching up on older posts). Checked on the chickens by the light of the waning super moon and walked property lines with my dog. In silence. Just wanted to say thanks again for all you do.

  9. “…people being put out of business because they don’t want to make a wedding cake for a gay wedding.”
    “You have a right to not provide service if you are a private business. You have a right decide who you want to and who you don’t want to do business with. You can take jobs and what and don’t take jobs you don’t want. I’m all for that.”

    I completely agree with your statement. The loophole is that gays have managed to achieve minority status on par with skin color. That seems nuts to me, but your statement would need to extend to the right to refuse service to anyone.

    Personally, I believe should have the right to be bigots. If they want to run their businesses like bigots and refuse service to white people or black people or short people or any person. In today’s world, I believe the free market will quickly favor inclusive businesses and bigots will be stuck serving a niche of people who support their point of view. I don’t think the government should be imposing it’s will on private business owners beyond basic health, sanitation and building safety requirements.

    For example, in WA and many states, they outlawed smoking in public places including bowling alleys, bars, restaurants, etc. Personally, I don’t like eating or doing leisure activities where people smoke so I chose to tilt toward businesses that were smoke free. If a business wanted to attract a family crowed or non-smokers they could promote that and gain a competitive advantage, but the smokers should be free to muck up their lungs with other smokers if they want.

    Obviously government agencies, buildings, etc. are a different matter and must be inclusive, but private property that serves the public should have more freedom….even the freedom to be self-destructive. The bottom line is, I think the free market can solve these issues and the government should stay the out of it.

    Note: I have never lived in the South so my perspective on racial issues is limited.

  10. Jack it seems like from your analysis you’re more of a disgruntled republican than a libertarian/anarchist/independent. This doesn’t hold a candle to the analysis I’ve been hearing from actual independents. It seems like you’re not worried about the ways that Trump is going to actually grow the government and increase the amount of corporatism happening here (not to mention with issues of surveillance, warrentless wiretapping, drone usage, etc.). I think this is super troubling. Also, Trump’s tendency toward nepotism does not bode well, and the rumors about who he’s choosing for his cabinet shows that he’s not draining the swamp, he’s just changing which swamp creatures are in charge. Term-limits shifts the power to outside influences like lobbiests.

    He has an ability to make a lot of money, but that doesn’t necessarily translate to good governance. Being in Michigan, we have a governor who’s been running this place like a business, and it’s not working.

    My only hope (which will not come true) is that Obama pardons Snowden before he leaves office. We’re going headlong into a place where we need more whistleblowers and greater transparency in government, and Trump is not good for that.

    I think Greenwald has had the most spot on independent analysis of this whole situation: