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Episode-249- The Practical Aspects of Tactical Firearms

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I don’t do a lot of firearms centric podcasts simply because there are a lot of great podcasts about guns and their use, training and customization.  Yet it is a major component to modern survival philosophy so today I attempt to bring some practicality to that subject.

Today in the intro segment we discuss the 33 million dollar fine to Bank of America and why it pushishes their shareholders (whom it is supposed to protect) and doesn’t punish the company at all.  We also discuss a small group of senate democrats that recently stood up for the second amendment.

On the main topic tune in to hear my thoughts on…

  • Are you grounded in reality from a home defense stand point?
  • Can you get to your gun?  Is a 5 second response time 3 seconds to slow?
  • Why I advise concealed carry holders to continue carrying when the get home
  • Are you mentally prepared to pull the trigger are you mentally prepared to not pull the trigger?
  • Are you proficient with your firearms, is your family?
  • What makes a good defensive hand gun, is bigger better?
  • What makes a good home defensive shotgun?
  • What place does the carbine play in home defense?
  • Has the “fantasy” many engaged in ever actually occurred?
  • What can we learn from the NRA’s armed citizen segment in American Rifleman?
  • What role to airsoft weapons play in tactical training?
  • Where does the 22 fit in the mix, why should you have one and how to choose one
  • A bit on airguns for training and game harvesting

Resources for today’s show…

I left up these videos on Safe Deposit Boxes from Yesterday,  You Really Should View Them Both

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Episode-249- The Practical Aspects of Tactical Firearms — 33 Comments

  1. Would appreciate it if you can you throw in your review of the Kaito Radio from Emergency Essentials this week while they're on sale. I believe yesterday you said you weren't that pleased.

  2. Your right about reciprocity the Missouri permit is good in 35 states why not 48.When you go to another state you haft to go by there laws.And a lot of those are just commen sence laws.Jack you must of heard of the 21 feet rule meaning that a person can cover 21 feet at a full run in 1.5 seconds so yes 5 seconds might be fatal.The thing about a 45acp or long colt there already a 45 caliber others may not expand to that size after they mushroom.For those that wonder why i said 48 and not 50 state reciprocity WISCONSIN and ILLINOIS dont have concealed carry WICCONSIN does have open carry.

  3. Just a tip for training for self defense. Do some kind of exercise before shooting, whether its with airsoft or a real gun. It gets the heart and adrenaline pumping close to what it would be in a bad situation. I do this when I target practice with my bow for hunting. Its just something to help familiarize yourself for the situation.

  4. Jack, can you please provide a citation to the portion of the PATRIOT Act referenced in the second video on safety deposit boxes that you posted? I have searched text of the Act and I have been unable to find the referenced provision.

    I keep some precious metals in a safety deposit box, and if what that video claims is actually fact, I need to remove them promptly and cancel my safety box. I don't want to do anything so drastic, though, just because "some guy in an internet video said so," until I have verified that the PATRIOT Act actually gives the gov the power the the guy in the video claims.

  5. Great show today. I have a lot to think about regarding my ability to shoot another human being if it is necessary. I would like to believe that I'm capable of doing this. But I just don't know.

    Also – I love (LOVE) the new format for comments! What plugin are you using?

  6. Jack:

    If anyone has tried testing the "21 foot rule," say, with airsoft guns, you will quickly find out that trying to be faster than the "other guy" means you will end up in a tie at best … which means you will die too. A man running at you can take 2-3 hits from a .45 and still have time to slice your throat. People need force on force training to deal with "the hole", learn to shoot on the move, and be mentally able to shoot another human being. I strongly recommend everyone read Lt. Col. Dave Grossman's "On Combat" and "On Killing", as well as listen to his youtube series "The Bullet Proof Mind." I also strongly recommend anything by Gabe Suarez.

  7. There may be many reasons to not keep precious metals or other valuables in a Bank vault, but I can't find any proof that the Patriot Act has any provisions that would allow for seizure of items in a safe deposit box. There are some areas of that code that allow for gathering business records, etc, but those seizures have to be approved by a judge, just like any other seizure. Lets let this die here before the tin foil hats run with it.

  8. Another great show Jack. A few comments though.

    For another good defensive carbine, the Kel-Tec SU16C is hard to beat. Light, accurate, and when fired folded with a 1-point sling, VERY compact and damn near impossible to take away. Plus .223 has been shown to have less overpenetration issues than even most pistol rounds against drywall interiors of structures.

    Second, pistol calibers are not real fight stoppers.

    http://i446.photobucket.com/albums/qq184/PistolWh…

    That is a side by side comparison of major defensive calibers in Ballistics Gelatin. While every round has nuances that make it better or worse for certain tasks, when they hit, they do damn near the same thing to tissue. I REALLY like .45, but I'd be just as quick to carry a 9mm to a gun fight if I had to. With quality ammo, both have a "one-hit drop" rate (which I'd never RELY on a pistol to do BTW) of over 90%. With 2 or 3 shots, that's enough for me in any of those calibers.

    I mostly agree with your view on "tactical" shotguns. I personally would like a good short barreled 12 gauge "coach" gun for home defense myself (no chance of short stroking, and 2 rounds of 12 gauge should handle most situations.) That said, I also like my weapons to be as versatile as possible, and I can't argue with the improved weight and compactness of a lot of these "tactical" weapons. Might be good to have one stored away, even if it was "just in case".

    And finally, rifles like the AR, while "military" and "tactical", are also supremely versatile. They are lightweight, reliable, and capable of firing a good round (.223/5/56, both light and accurate, and effective up to even smaller deer) accurately and repeatedly. And I'm sure some guy breaking into a house that ended up looking down the barrel of what looked to be a "Machine Gun" would usually stop whatever he was doing and become compliant quickly.

    Again, great show, nice change of pace, but a lot of the "tactical" stuff isn't purely for "cool factor" as it was seemingly implied.

    Keep up the great work Jack.

  9. I am not a big fan of the 9mm caliber, nor a fan of the Glock. (Both are fine, but just don't suit me personally.) However, a Glock 17 loaded with high capacity magazines filled with 9mm rounds is a great option. I am not expert, but having 17 9mm rounds is a greater advantage than having 8 .45-cal rounds in a 1911. Just my $0.02 and worth everything you paid for it.

  10. Thanks for another show that really made me think. I have come to the conclusion there is no reason for me to own a handgun. I would probably not be able to bring myself to use it, and I would just endanger myself or my family in a home defense situation. I will keep my 10/22 (which I love) and still think about getting a shotgun, mostly for hunting purposes. I had not thought about a sling for my carbine-great idea.

    I had mixed feelings about the CCW bill. While I am pro-gun rights I am also very Pro-law enforcement and Pro-states rights. I was totally in conflict about the whole thing. The tin-foil hat wearer in me saw this as a way for anti-gun movements to push for national gun restrictions – since firearm control would have already been nationalized…

    • Chris, there are advantages to a handgun. First, if you carry at home, it is a whole lot easier to carry a Glock 17 or XD40 than it is to carry a Remington 870. 😉 Also, it can be easier to move around with a pistol than a long gun. Of course, like my Marine friend told me, "Your pistol is what you use to fight your way to your rifle if you are caught by surprise."

      • Thanks for the thoughts Jarrod. My point is more that I feel I am unlikely to bring myself to pull the trigger on a human being, especially at close range. Having a weapon that I am unlikely to use just brings a weapon to the fight that can be used against me. I would use a taser however, they cost about the same as a handgun and would buy some time to get away. A taser turned against me because things have gone wrong is gonna hurt but I am less likely to be dead.

  11. I carry a glock 19 and a glock 17 was the first pistol I ever shot. They way I try to look at it is if I am going to pull the trigger I am not going to pull it just once. After practing at the range with rental guns I am never able to get two shots off with a 40 or 45 in the same amout of time I can fire two 9mm rounds.

    I wonder every day if I carry this gun for myself or because I would actually be able to use it. Kinda hope i never have to find out.

  12. Thanks for the safe deposit box vid update 🙂
    Self reliance is just that – self reliance.
    Get creative.

    Empty paint cans, hay stacks, bird houses, balls of yarn, home canned foods, buried PVC pipe, logs and other such items and locations are practical modern day safe deposit boxes.

  13. In the show you recommended a 22 rifle and pistol. When discussing the 22 pistol your recomendation of revolver vs. automatic wasn't clear. Could you clarify?
    Thank you

  14. joejelly I didn't recommend one over the other, I stated that you should match your choice of a 22 pistol to what ever type of pistol you carry for self defense or for hunting. So if your carry gun is a 45 auto, get a semi auto 22. If you carry a small frame 357, get a revolver so that your practice with the 22 is as similar as is reasonably possible to shooting your larger caliber weapon.

  15. Jack – Another great show. You made me think about the single point sling and weapons retention, especially when you hear a bump in the night in your home. One thing you could've emphasized was having a good light such as a Surefire to ID your target.

  16. Jack, could you do a show sometime on how to get into reloading? Costs, products, options, experience/education needed, etc.? I think it would be a great topic and one that I would really learn a lot from.

  17. Chris, I have thought about whether I would pull the trigger and have decided that I would ONLY if all the following conditions existed: (1) my life or crippling bodily injury was in danger (or to my loved ones), (2) the danger was \"right now\", and (3) I could not reasonably avoid the danger. The way I see it, a deadly intruder has brought it upon himself and, unlike the intruder, I am shooting the center of mass with the intent to stop, not to kill. Once the threat is gone, I will make sure to inform the police to bring medical attention (if I have not done so already). The way I see it, the deadly intruder initiated the threat and I am showing a great deal more mercy than the deadly intruder would have. Just my $0.02.

  18. Chris another thing you haft to think about evan if your 100 percent in the right you may still haft to deal with a cival lawsuit depending on what state your in and that could cost a fortune.

  19. The list of bad things that happen to you in RIGHTEOUSLY AND LEGALLY using a gun for self-defense is very long:
    1. deep psychological trauma,
    2. possibly prosecution even if you’re obviously totally in the right,
    3. higher rate of divorce, guaranteed loss of your assets in a civil suit (either to your lawyer or theirs),
    4. living your life looking over your shoulder watching for the deceased criminal’s gang-banger buddies who certainly are out to kill you and your family.

    The only upside: you and your family are still alive to endure #1-4 above.

  20. There was one couple in Nevada earlier this year who heard a noise outside. They looked out the window and saw some guys breaking into their car in the driveway.

    The couple unloaded on the robbers with a couple of AK47s. If I recall correctly, the robbers got away and the car was filled with bullet holes. (I’m pretty sure the insurance company won’t cover gunfire.)

  21. The Senate bill for CCW reciprocity should have been defeated – because this is a matter for the states, not the federal government. Let the states continue to work it out amongst themselves.

  22. @George

    So should the state of Texas for example be able to say that you have to have a Texas driver’s license to be able to drive in the state of Texas? Should they be allowed to deny the use of a Florida driver’s license by a Florida resident driving through Texas?

    If you say they should I disagree but fine I understand your objection. If you don’t think one state should be able to deny driving thought their state with another states DL then please explain to me the difference here.

  23. Yes they should be able to deny it.

    Of course, I think the requirement of having a driver’s license or face jail for exercising your right to travel is BS, just as the requirement to get a CCW or face jail for carrying concealed is obvious BS. But you know where I’m coming from it sounds like. 🙂

  24. So you oppose a law that begins to chip away at a state denying a constitutional right? See this is why constitutionalists and libertarians can’t seem to get traction in the political world it is all or nothing with most of them. The politicians have taken freedoms one step at a time, it will take the same approach to erode the encroachment as it took to erode the freedoms.

    I am also not opposed to a DL to drive on a public road. It was built for vehicles with public money and so the public has the right to regulate its use. You are not required to have a DL to drive a car, you are required to have one to drive on a state controlled road. You can drive all you want on private property. You can also drive on many unmaintained roads with no DL as many a young man with a motorcycle still shy of his 16th birthday will tell you.

  26. I think using the federal govt against the state governments is going in the wrong direction. I want greater decentralization of power, not greater centralization.

    I think constitutionalists are counterproductively distracted by that document. It’s just 4 pieces of parchment signed (in the sense of a contract) by no one. It either enabled this or it failed to prevent it from happening. Let’s instead work from the principles that underlie the best parts of the constitution.

    Amen on the DL issue.

  27. @Possenti2264

    That is a lie. Driving is not a privilege it is simply a mode of travel. The right to travel exists as recognized right by our constitution. A DL is about “access to a publicly funded thoroughfare where others who have helped fund it are entitled to protection”. That protection includes a reasonable level of assurance that the person in the 6,000 pound SUV next to them has a clue as to the agreed upon rules of the road.

    Again you can drive anywhere you want with no license as long as you are not on a state controlled (ie funded) road. Why? Using a car is a mode of travel which again is a right. A DL is about access to publicly funded infrastructure it has very little to do with the vehicle itself.

  28. Rights come from property. I have the right to do whatever I like with my property as long as I don’t aggress against any one else (or their property, same thing).

    My car, on my road, my right.

    My car, on a public road (either belongs to all or none), my right.

    My car, on your road, my privilege.

    My gun, on my land, my right.

    My gun, on your land, a privilege.

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