What Would Post Empire America be Like – Epi-3260
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Today we step into the world of the unknown. There is no way to answer then question other then with guess work. We all know the ability of the US to act as the police force and welfare daddy to the rest of the world is ending. Fiat currency and central banking are reaching the limits of delusional money printing. Also the developed world is beginning to see population peak, then decline.
The last one gets over looked but no serious discussion about this topic should do that. In 1970 we had 3.7 workers paying into SSI for every 1 person drawing benefits. We are now about 2.5 to 1. By 2030 the best estimate is we will have 2.4 to 1 and this estimate is from 2019 and didn’t take the pandemics impact, the growth of AI, etc. into account.
There is a phrase that CJ Kilmer used on my last show with him, “trapped in a permanent present”, as we will discuss today, that trap is mental only and doesn’t address current and very soon to be reality.
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- What possible flash points of decline could be the demarcation point of decline/collapse
- Loss of reserve currency status
- Inability to muster troops to service
- City/County/State level financial implosions
- State sovereignty moves (up to and including secession)
- Agricultural collapse
- The coming demographic bomb
- Potential blow back from the rest of the world
- A lot of people are angry with us, more than we can honestly admit
- We do rely on other countries for a lot of “needs”
- We have made many of our “allies” lazy, fat and weak
- What would it be like for the average person
- In some ways, not much, in others the impact could be massive
- The big cities will suffer the most
- Any and all pensions, etc. would be at major risk
- Critical infrastructure will continue to crumble (accelerate)
- The spread between wealth and poverty will increase
- Where will local opportunities be
- Food production and education for it
- Social enjoyment/entertainment
- Technology and automation
- Childhood education
- Handy man type services (home maintence)
- What can you think of
- What does the economics and monetary policy look like
- Let’s be honest first, we don’t really know
- An attempt to dollarize the world with “stable coins” under FDIC
- Bitcoin is going to play a role, especially with lightning and fedimints
- Economies may become more localized for needs and rely on imports for luxary
- People will have to take greater personal responsibility
- With our vacuum who fills it, Russia, China, the BRICs, something else
- Understand this has happened before and nothing like it has ever happened at the same time
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Absolutely. Right on point. Also, private security, security dogs…
I don’t think almost anything you said was wrong, but I think you are missing out on one of the big possibilities and that is a big withdrawal from the rest of the world. i.e. We now police the world and pay for it by taxing the world with the petrol dollar. If you want to read a book on it, it is Peter Zeihan’s “The End of the World is Just the Beginning”.
If the world dumps the petrol dollar, we can remain solvent by just cutting our military budget which also solves the recruitment issue. Since we are the only ones with a true deep water fleet, we will then collapse globalization as the seas will no longer be safe. i.e. don’t think of the fall of Russia, but the fall of Rome or the end of Pax Romana.
I wouldn’t worry about anyone else coming after us to settle scores, they will have their own problems to deal with and almost no one has a navy that can even reach us. Sure they will attempt cyber attacks and maybe even nastier things but we will still be doing that also and they will need all their attention to keep their own neighborhoods safe.
So now instead of a world market for products and everyone being a specialist, every country has to do everything themselves. China is toast. They only produce the cheapest bulk items and only using western expertise and even if everything goes perfectly, the one-child policy will collapse their economy in decades once their workforce ages out without anyone to replace them.
So Post Empire America will be just NAFTA. So no more cheap anything from the east or maybe even Europe. If it isn’t produced here, then it will cost too much to get. I’d say build greenhouses and get ready to produce all the food no one will be able to get any other way, like chocolate or spices. Go look around your pantry and your house for anything that isn’t made in Canada, US or Mexico, then add in the remaining stuff that needs parts or resources from outside NAFTA and that is what we will be left with.
I see it as much more likely that we would let the rest of the world burn then allow our own economy to collapse.
The US has been the world’s abusive police force for a while, but what if their wasn’t any police? That is the world post empire at least until everyone else can step up and fill the vacuum.
Cutting mil spending won’t do jack if the world dumps the dollar. The interest on the debt is the third largest expense we have and will eclipse defense spending in less than 5 years. Economically the only thing holding us together is the world not dumping us as the world reserve currency. They moment we lose that status it is full on economic disaster.
We will recover of course but it will be far worse than most imagine and those hardest hit will be those on welfare. If China ever really goes to war with the US they don’t need to fire a shot, not one bullet. Cut off our supply to key materials, stop buying debt from us, sell off or call in what they have. We have never been so weak in the existence of modern America.