Episode-806- Freedom and Liberty in a World of Tyranny — 22 Comments

  1. Jack, While I agree that the Iowa caucuses don’t mean anything. All of the people you said won the caucuses did not. Barack Obama won (Hillary was third). John Kerry won (Howard Dean was third). George W Bush won (McCain was 5th).

    • @Byron, well hell! Now I ain’t gonna say who but the reason I thought this was the case is a very popular radio show host (nationally) just said it. Son of a bitch but do we now have to vet everyone, I guess so. This was the first time I listened to main stream radio in a long time, due to our road trip to Texas.

      In hind sight I should have remembered this better but as I said on Facebook yesterday I was pretty off my game on this show. Stupid allergies or some cold or some crap. Howard Dean was the one I was sure of, I thought he won, did the infamous moronic scream and killed his candidacy with that. A quick google though shows you to be spot on, thanks for the catch.

    • Maybe the Iowa caucuses do mean something if the three winners listed did eventually become the candidates and two of the three became President.

  2. I’m still in the middle of the episode for today (I listen to half on my lunch break and the other half on my drive home) but wanted to add a comment in the section talking about people who agree on most of the fundamentals of an issue get into namecalling over such trivial bullshit.

    The philosopher Voltaire had a famous quote, “The perfect is the enemy of the good,” and I think it really applies here. People are so wrapped up in the “perfect candidate” the “perfect eco lifestyle” the perfect “permaculture design” that they spend most of their time bitching about the little things that nothing is ever done.

  3. I’m still laughing about this but I figuged I should correct the pronunciation of the two congressman from Idaho that voted against the NDAA bill. I am somewhat proud of my state to have had both of them vote against it.

    Risch is pronounced like the c didn’t exist. (Rish)

    Crapo is pronounced like “Craypo” I am still laughing about Mr Crappo….. (I drove home for lunch behind a car with a Mike Crapo sticker on it and you’ve ruined me. I couldn’t stop lauging about it.

  4. Thanks Jack I really liked this show good food for thought. I hate the thought of being a kept pet. I am working hard to get to the point that I can produce 75% of our own food and be 100% debit free that just can’t happen fast enough for me.

    Hubby grew up with his parents telling him that if you ever want to amount to any thing you will have to have debit. Only poor people grow their food. SS will be there so you can retire. There is a constant battle going on inside of his head of what will get him to the freedom that he wants. Your 14 steps to libertarian lifestyle really bring things into view.

    And thanks for the Steve Aukstakalnis show I have been thinking about the Alerts USA but was not sure if it was accurate or credible. I have had the Threat Journal for a while now and really like it.

  5. I have only been listening to this program for about nine months and I was unaware how much animosity was present in this community until Jack pointed it out to me today. Granted I don’t get on the boards and read other people’s comments. I thought the rest of you were here for the same thing I was, practical ideas for things I can actually do to improve myself, my family, my town, and maybe my county and state. I listen to Beck, Rush, and any other loud mouth who strikes my fancy at the moment for all of the political crap I need or can stand that day. But they are big picture BS on which I can have little effect; if any effect at all. I down load Jack and 4 or 5 other people to learn, to get real ideas that can have real meaning in my life.
    It bothers me to learn that we have people here who want to argue minutia. I thought we were survivalists here. A survivalist should be adaptable enough to look at any idea with a proper attitude toward tolerance. I examine all the ideas here enough to say: ok this matters to me and that does not; I can believe this but I’m sure about that; ok this is one of Jack’s particular little insanities and it has nothing to do with me and my particular little insanities. I haven’t sat down and calculated the numbers of how much I agree with Jack. Does a survivor have that kind of time? J.H.C. I have to be doing something else while I’m listening to JACK!!! I don’t have the time to devote an hour a day to just him… and I consider him to be real important to my current preparations. But there is someone here who has the time to argue BS on the forum? Wow are they really a survivalist or are they just an a-hole who has to argue to be happy.
    Anyway, I’ve wasted 20 minutes writing this BS. I’ve got work to do.

    • Thanks for saving me 20 minutes by writing this, I was too busy prepping to write it myself.. =)

      thoughts & actions in your ‘circle of influence’ (things you can actually affect) = change

      everything else = waste

  6. Thank you Jack for another great show and for saying so many good things that needed to be said! I’ll be sharing this one with some folks I know that I think would benefit greatly from your words.

  7. I’m not sure if you read the bill or not but the language in “Covered Persons” was changed from “suspected terrorist”… Of course it’s still an atrocious bill but I think it’s important understand what this bill actually does.

    Section 1031 authorized detention

    b) COVERED PERSONS.—A covered person under this section is any person as follows: (1) A person who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored those responsible for those attacks. (2) A person who was a part of or substantially supported AL-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners, including any person who has committed a belligerent act or has directly supported such hostilities in aid of such enemy forces.

    (e) AUTHORITIES.—Nothing in this section shall be construed to affect existing law or authorities, relating to the detention of United States citizens, lawful resident aliens of the United States or any other persons who are captured or arrested in the United States.


    (2) COVERED PERSONS.—The requirement in paragraph (1) shall apply to any person whose detention is authorized under section 1031 who is determined— (A) to be a member of, or part of, AL-Qaeda or an associated force that acts in coordination with or pursuant to the direction of AL-Qaeda; and (B) to have participated in the course of planning or carrying out an attack or attempted attack against the United States or its coalition partners.

    • @Josh thank you that is far from what is being said on the hyped up media side of things.

    • Thank you for all the time you put into this podcast/website. I’ve been listening for a few months and am really enjoying it. As soon as my wife and I pay off our credit cards (getting close) I hope to become a member.

  8. Great show Jack! What I liked most about it is that it reinforces the idea that although many of us come from different perspectives or starting points, once you cross over into the survivalist/prepper/homesteader realm, many of the old dividing lines simply melt away.

    For example, I come from a very left-wing background, but getting involved in household food production and learning the truth about our industrialized food system has turned me in a much more anti-statist direction. This has happened to the point that I find myself much more in line with Ron Paul, politically-speaking, than I do the more liberal wing of the Democratic Party, which I used to support.

    I was also very, very, VERY happy to hear the little snippet you gave about AGW. Even though I may fall on the side that I think AGW is more likely than not, I will NEVER support any of the crazy “carbon tax” schemes out there. Like you, I really believe that the things that are worth doing — growing your own food, living a more localized life, becoming more energy efficient and self-reliant — are positive steps REGARDLESS of where you fall on that particular issue. In fact, I have found myself more and more frustrated with Mother Earth News over their endless bleating on this issue — only because publishing articles that deal only with climate change do NOTHING to help people take meaningful action to become more self-reliant.

    Thanks for continuing to put out such a great product, and giving me much food-for-thought during my daily 3-hour round-trip commute. And although I’ll miss new shows over the holidays, I hope that you and your family enjoy the downtime during the season. Peace!

  9. Re: Points 2, 8 & 11 – “A free man must not be told how to think, either by the government or by social activists. He may certainly be shown the right way, but he must not accept being forced into it.” Col. Jeff Cooper

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  11. How about this lesser-discussed freedom, a personal-social freedom:
    Freedom from the excessive and/or unnecessary judgement from others. Freedom to just simply exist if you are a decent folk.
    Also considering that this type of judgement does in fact exist frequently, this would also include freedom from fear of potential excessive/unnecessary judgement whether it is actually happening or not, still the same end immobilizing effect.
    Mostly an unrealistic request, but just saying. Not often discussed and quite a rampant and impacting force. Ultimately it can unnecessarily divide due to its excess and when implemented in unnecessary ways.

  12. Strong episode. Since it’s the end of the year and time for predictions I predict that within five (5) years Jack Spirko will have embraced the fully anarcho-libertarian position on at least the philosophical level. 😉 I’ll put $10 on it.

    On a side note, something many here may be interested in is Agorism. Google it and if you think it suits you, integrate it into your life.