Episode-1576- Listener Feedback for 5-18-15 — 53 Comments

  1. OMFG!!!! All I can say is thank you for the warning. So your brother does not have to be embarrassed in front of his friends when he throws a fit. Let him throw a fit. Oh I can’t even … ugh. Can’t stand this kind of crap.

  2. You said a mouthful right from the start, “trust” especially those you think have your back is a very sticky situation. It’s an extremely painful ordeal. No easy way to deal with it.

  3. Actually the Chicago situation is much worse. The state of Illinois used a law to trim pensions and Chicago rode the coattails.. The Illinois state constitution guaranteed pensions so Illinois lost, setting precedent for Chicago to get hosed.

  4. Hi Jack,
    I have a question that doesn’t relate to today topics, but was wondering;
    What are your thoughts/concerns about the “Jade Helm 15” military exercise?

    Thanks for all you do!

    • Jack commented on that in a listener show a few weeks back.
      (Quick search shows it as episode 1549)

      If I recall correct, the main bullet points were:
      –It’s a military training exercise; the military trains all the time
      –If it were training for covert-martial-law or whatever the Joneses are saying, they probably wouldn’t have told you about it
      –There are more important things to be concerned about in that realm
      (like why does NOAA or DOEducation etc need armed special agents?)

      If I got that wrong, Jack will hopefully correct me.

      • No you got it right, save for worrying about the NOAA guys being armed and what have you. Trust me the guy chasing tornadoes and reading the radar isn’t armed.

        The armed guys in NOAA are sort of like game wardens for shallow marine systems and their total body count, dun dun dun, 96!

        As to the Department of Education. Yep they too have armed agents. This is a small group in the OIG (Office of the Inspector General)

        As the law enforcement arm of the Department of Education, the OIG investigates cases of fraud, theft and other illegal uses of federal education funds. Since their job requires potentially dangerous duties including serving warrants and making felony arrests, Education Department OIG agents are require to carry firearms.

        An annual list of cases investigated by Education Department OIG agents over the last 10 years reveals many cases of fraud involving the theft of from $100,000 to $600,000 in federal funds.

        And what got the conspiracy rags churning about the DOE, a purchase of 870 shotguns. And how many did they buy in order to be part of the big FEMA roundup, dun dun dun, 27.

        The more you know, GI Joe.

        Sorry couldn’t resist that last part. LOL

        • Now *I* can’t resist…

          What my gen learned from GI Joe:
          Knowing is half the battle.
          …The other half is blowing shit up.

          (…of course, that might be a bad learning moment…)

          (My bad on the agencies bit; that was from a web article I’d recently seen.
          ….Your concern was general militarization of police?)

        • Good point and I think as a kid I did too.

          As an adult using pattern recognition here is what GI Joe taught me. Think about this deeply.

          No matter how many times the good guys win, Cobra Commander and his key people must escape to fight another day. If they did get him and his people the story would end. Now if that ever did happen a “new enemy” would have to be created to continue the story. We will only kill off the villain when people start losing interest in the story, the new villain will always be scarier and harder to fight then the old one.

        • Heh.
          I *can* have an influence!

          …I can’t recall for certain, but I want to think you’ve made that argument before–the nature of needing a ‘bad guy’–but the GI Joe analogy might be the best way to demonstrate it.

        • Yes of course but I never thought about how kids cartoons with a super villain explain mind control with modern war fare. Especially GI Joe! Though Batman might be better as they rotate villains a bit more often.

  5. Love the million tree idea. I’ll post if I get something moving toward that goal.

  6. One additional point to consider for the Reserves. I retired from active duty in 2010, so my retirement pay started right away. On the day of my retirement I found out that when I became eligible for social security I would have to make a declaration to receive EITHER my retirement pay or social security, but I was not going to get both. This is based on what year you joined the military. I joined in 1989 so anyone after me will be effected.

    For the Reserves, they do not draw any retirement pay till sometime in their sixties and my understanding is they will not be eligible for social security either, meaning they will work in the reserves for 20- 30 years only to get what ever the difference is between social security and their retirement.

    National Guard is a State Retirement so they still get social security. Just something to consider.

    • Now that is kind of sticky and really important information at the same time.

  7. As one of the permaethos founding members, I’d be willing to plant a hundred trees. I have already planted 200 trees and 280 shrubes along with many grapes and black berries.

    It would be nice to get community together for the planting. Its a lot of work in my soil to plant that many trees unless they are 6 inch trees.

  8. Oh the sit at the table and eat your food or go to bed game! My mother as a child played that game with her mother. Years later I played that with both of my parents. You can guess who won. Many nights I went to bed hungry. But a lesson 30+ years I still remember.

  9. There are two .357 automatics made (both in MN). The Desert Eagle gets all the glory but the Coonan is essentially a reworked 1911 to fire .357. I have extensive experience with one and it is a really cool gun.

    • Now damn it! I just did a show today about not always needing new guns and you go and show me a 1911 in 357 Magnum!

  10. You warned me that I may want to have aneurysm, and even that wasn’t enough warning! How anyone sat through that episode of ‘This American Life’ is beyond me. Just the little clips you played were unbelievable, and that talk she had with her 4 year old, oh my God! Putting more responsibility on her 4 year old than she, her husband, and her 7 year old were willing to take on combined, ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING!

    As I’ve mentioned on this blog before, I have a 2 year old, and there’s a lot of advice out there that basically says to lower your expectations. This absolutely drives me nuts, I’m amazed as to how perceptive he is, and how quickly he learns. I regularly do things with him, that most people would say are too high of expectations for a 5 or 6 year old, and there’s never a problem. But, this is why these ‘experts’ say that. Because they are used to dealing with parents who are not willing to take responsibility, not willing to be the adult, and therefore put it on their kid.
    It is a 4 year old’s job to learn by playing and by doing, not to take responsibility for his 7 year old brother.

  11. Thanks for the shout out toward the end there, Jack! Very cool talk on trophic cascades and what that means for the community.

    As you mentioned, I’m pretty new to the show and to this community, I literally had never heard of Permaculture before finding your show, so the more I’m learning, the more patterns I see. Not just on this show, but in literally every walk of life.

  12. The minds of little kids to the so-called ‘tween’ age boggle mine.
    Their entire experience has been that EVERYTHING is on demand from food to entertainment.
    YouTube is raising kids more than parents. Every kid has their own device in their face virtually all waking hours outside school. This is in addition to any collective TV/movie watching where each kid also has their personal device.
    When I casually commented once about putting a lock on the pantry (after witnessing numerous pantry raids in one afternoon,) a parent told me with a straight face that it would constitute child abuse.

  13. Jack your comment on becoming a firearm instructor and foregoing the military service hit the nail on the head. I am a firearm instructor and train other firearm instructors. While I was an Operator in the Army, it was as a construction equipment operator (no stealth backhoes or 5 ton dumps when I was in the service) and not a Special Forces Operator”.
    I have found the focusing on teaching and working with regular, every day people, predominantly professionals is much more productive if you treat them like professionals and not Mall Ninja wantabes. We need more instructors that are willing to give the tacti-cool stuff a pass and help people learn what they need to know to be safe, protect themselves and their families and not get in trouble with the law when they do so.

  14. Regarding a ups for backup. I have two that our IT department was getting rid of because they were “old”. I opened them up removed the batteries, went to Batteries Plus and got replacement batteries. Reinstalled the new batteries and now I two new ups units. Just keep an eye open for opportunities.

  15. Horrible parenting, leadership or guidance period. Why would you ever want to reward bad behavior??? Just incredible.

  16. Living in a “rural area” I can attest to having a UPS. The power doesn’t always go out during the worst parts of the storms, sometimes the smallest rain storms will flick it off. This is a very irritating situation when working with desktops.

  17. Quick tip on UPSes. Many people and companies toss them when they appear dead. But did you know most if not all will not turn on if the battery they are hooked up to is dead. I have revived about 2 750 watt modified sine and 3 3000 watt pure sine UPSes that a company was throwing out. All I had to do was ditch the old batteries and make my own battery bank. So basically with 150 in battery cost, I revived about $7000 in back up power equipment. I kept 2 and gave the others to family members. My setup powered my sump pump, refrigeration, and some lighting. I even ran the chick heat lamps with it!

  18. I pledge to plant 500 productive trees on the day we go for the record.

  19. For those who want to get started on cheap autumn olive, wouldn’t the real trick be seeds?

  20. Jack, you have not talked about municipal defaults in a long time. Maybe a refresher for the new listeners would be a good idea. It was one of the biggest things that motivated me to take control of my own life.

  21. So on the Pistol/Rifle angle, isn’t .45 Colt an option as well? Particularly at +P loads.

  22. Two things Jack.

    10mm carbine -

    We planted 500 fruit trees, and over 100 nut trees this year. We are in the process of developing our inhouse nursery now, and will be planting another 5,000 trees next year, and more the following year. Give me a shout when you want a tally for the record.

  23. Hey Jack — two separate comments on this show…

    First, regarding the segment from This American Life. You’re right, most parents have lost their damn minds in this day and age. I have a son who just turned 4 and a daughter who is about to turn 8. One of the most common phrases in our house is, “Suck it up, buttercup.” That, and the throwing of fits is not permitted in public. If our son starts throwing one, he’s given the option of either stopping the fit, going to his room on his own to continue the fit, or picked up and carried to his room to continue the fit. When our daughter has one of her over-emotional episodes, she gets sent to her room until she’s done as well. We drill it to them over and over again that acting like that in public is not acceptable, neither of their parents do it, so they don’t get to do is either. Since they’re kids we realize that sometimes having a fit for a little while actually helps them to calm down over the longer term, but that’s an activity that can only be carried out in their own rooms.

    Second is regarding the “basic guaranteed income” — I was actually shocked when I heard you voice support for such an idea over a LONGER term, if it were tied to actually doing something productive. I immediately thought of John D. Liu’s “Green Gold” documentary, and what ultimately got the buy-in of the locals in the Loess Plateau restoration project and other similar projects in Ethiopia and other areas. Simply, they paid them. I could see something like this being pretty viable if it’s tied to people working in ecosystem restoration projects. It’s not really that far-fetched — it’s similar to the whole Civilian Conservation Corps effort in the 1930s. If you happen to read the letters of people who participated in that work (we have a NJ state park nearby that was largely built by the CCC), many of the people who participated expressed a sense of meaningful common purpose with others through their participation. I know that the conditions they lived in were pretty spartan back then and it would be pretty difficult to get a lot of today’s teacups to accept living like that, but it gives a clue as to what’s possible along those lines.

    Thanks for another great show!

    • Lets take that further.

      As there is a guaranteed job for anyone that wants one there is then no need for welfare for anyone save for the physically and mentally disabled.

      Oh you don’t want one of the jobs we have to help out society, got get your own job then, start your own business, or don’t but there is no free money any more, good bye.

      Do I really want guaranteed jobs, no, but I would take them over guaranteed money any day.

  24. I stumbled across Rolling River Nursery while searching for Goumi plants, they were sold out. I ordered two Autumn Olives from them 3 weeks ago. Charlies Golden and Garnet. They arrived 4′ and 4’6″ tall. I was shocked and impressed with the size and health upon arrival. I hope your plants do well and thanks for sharing your knowledge and sources.

    • I just got mine, like just this past 20 minutes ago. I haven’t opened them yet but the weight of the box and size for 6 autumn olives sort of surprised me. Now I guess I know why, seems like another great supplier to add to our list.

  25. Dear God, I am glad I don’t watch tv anymore. I would have thrown my tv threw a window over that episode of parental f#$ktarditude.

    Anyhow, about the multi role rifle and pistol ammo I have picked up the Mechtec carbine conversion for my XDm’s (have one in .45 and 9mm) I keep them in mine and my wife’s pack’s. The are simple to swap out and surprisingly efficient.

    Though, I do agree that there isn’t really any good reason to limit yourself down to a mindset of “good enough” in a single weapon when you can, for a better price, have a “great” option for both self defense and hunting by getting weapons specifically purposed for your intended goal.

    and others beat me to showing you the Coonan .357 1911

    • @Andrew I thought it was illegal to “convert a hand gun to a rifle” but I guess that only applies to things like the RONI which becomes an SBR and needs a Tax Stamp?

      • Per their website:

        “Is it legal to convert the CCU back to the original pistol?

        Yes. The BATFE recently published a ruling which clarifies this – here is the link:
        There has been a lot of missinformation circulating to the effect that once the pistol lower has been asembled to a rifle configuration then converting back to the pistol constitutes ‘making a pistol from a rifle’ and thereby placing the pistol into the SBR (short barrelled rifle) class. Not so. Please see our Forum for even further clarification. It is the first post on the Forum so you don’t have to spend time trying to find it.”

        My general understanding is that because the barrel is 16″ it doesn’t fall into the SBR issues and so it is basically equated to swapping a drop in trigger between you AR carbine and your AR pistol

        • Damn it you guys need to stop this shit, I am doing a kitchen remodel, putting in a pond next and my wife wants new furniture. Some of this stuff makes me want to sell some of the guns I don’t really use at all just to create budge for these other things. This CCU is a VERY useful system.

    • I completely understand, but turn about is fair play. I had to sell one of my guns to pay for the little garden that a very vocal Texan decided to push me towards all while the wife and I are trying to pull together funds to get a physical property for our home business. So in the words of my 4 year old “neener neener.”

  26. If I have the story straight, my grandparents did something along those lines… If you didn’t eat your dinner, it was your breakfast.

    Of course, I’ll admit that I managed to avoid this, mostly, in my own childhood–probably as a reaction. (“No. I *don’t* want liver!” kind of thing.)

    • I never did really force my son to eat anything he really didn’t like.

      For instance he hated cauliflower, once he tried something with an open mind and simply didn’t care for it, I never asked him to do so again.

      This was a great decision because it resulted in him soon being willing to at least TRY anything. I always said, you can’t know if you are going to like something or not unless you try it with an open mind, that is all I expect from you.

      That battle line fell fast, because it was a co-operative solution.

      The eat your dinner or go hungry one took a bit longer, because the truth is at that point I was enforcing my will on him. We do have to do this as parents though at times. I wasn’t about to have a kid leave a plate of steak and green beans to go cold and then eat junk food.

      I never EVER forced him to eat the food honestly, he didn’t have to there was no punishment (force) used if he didn’t eat. It was just that the food in the house was MY FOOD, I paid for it right. So if you don’t eat what is good for you, you don’t get treats and junk.

      If he held out to breakfast (rare) there was a new meal, I didn’t put his dinner into his breakfast (unless it made sense like a steak omelet) but even then it wasn’t see you didn’t eat it so there it is, it was just here is breakfast.

      It was such a simple and peaceful method of parenting, I don’t have a clue how I ended up doing it. My family didn’t work that way and I didn’t know anyone else that did either.

      The concept is simple, there are rules and if you don’t follow them it isn’t that you are punished it is only that you don’t get certain other benefits. You don’t get locked in your room, or grounded, etc.

      Same thing with getting shit done, the dog still needs a bath, I’ll get to it soon, fine, change the password on the wireless router.

      Wailing and gnashing of teeth.

      Oh I see, you want access to my router that I pay for, well I want your dog washed.

      I am being punished,

      No I have taken nothing from you, you have no wireless router, you have no internet service, they belong to me. If you want to use them, we have an agreement that you preform certain tasks around here to purchase access to them. Just like if you want something from a store, you have to pay for it.

      The owner of the store won’t ground you, yell at you, spank you or even force you to earn money so you can buy his stuff, he just doesn’t let you have it unless you pay for it. See?

      Let me know when the dog has had his bath.

      Clean dog in about 20 minutes. All stays peaceful, no yelling, no “punishment” and an understanding of value for value is established.

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