Episode-1688- Listener Feedback for 12-7-15 — 31 Comments

  1. Yes, I read national publications that said they had a bomb making factory. Even right leaning people bought into this as evident by my FB feed.

    • Clever pun but seems to be completely untrue. Nothing that woman said failed to seem creditable. I honestly respected how she gently corrected Alex. Such as “ahhhh rahh but you quit and walked away” and she just works in soon after, “WHEN I WAS LAID OFF BY CNN”. We call that integrity Lukkas.

      People interested in lying generally do not do such things. Especially when someone else makes the claim on their behalf. They know if it ever comes back they can just say, I never said that. To go out of your way to correct such exaggerations by an idiot like Jones to me says this woman has integrity.

      She also has fricken guts, to go to Bahrain in the middle of the Arab Spring took guts, to be willing to go back when the regime there knew all about what she was doing, lets face it that woman must have bigger balls that most 20 something males do.

      • It was predominantly a pun for its own sake.

        I totally respect her integrity in this decision as well.

  2. It is driving me crazy when the media keeps calling these AR-15s “high-powererd rifles”. It is killing me!

    Jack I loved getting the sportsman’s guide as a kid. I ordered my first fall camo chamois shirt from there. And my dad got a ten round mag for his Remington 742!

  3. Hello Jack,

    I think you can safely exclude lawyer from your list of professions that require college. There is nothing in law school that cannot be learned while working as an apprentice in a law office.

    In fact, I can summarize the big mystery and marketing gimmick “thinking like a lawyer” (the main reason I went to law school was to figure out what it means) as follows: confidence without competence.


    • Yet if you want to be a lawyer, you need a degree. For now anyway. That is why it is on my list.

  4. I used to wonder why people think my generation is so pathetic, and then I broke my year plus long Facebook fast.
    We’re screwed. It’s way worse than you think.
    I for one am going to work 60-70 hours a week and sacrifice to reach my goals though.

    • Do you realize how lucky you are?

      These kids are not my competition, they are your competition.

      Imagine someone like me, where would I be today if the people of my generation on average were like the average of your generation?

      You should thank the God of your personal choice for the opportunity ahead of you. Have you ever thought about it that way?

      • That’s exactly how I think of it. Every day I’m thankful for the seriously hard times I’ve had in my life. I think it’s God setting me up for greatness. I’m thankful for the wisdom it’s possible for me to access via the internet too. Things like your show and The Millionaire Next Door. It really is amazing.

        Competition? There is no competition. I’m gonna be kicked back on the flagstone patio I built myself, behind the little stone house I built myself, on paid for land full of gardens, sipping some home grown herbal tea as I watch the world freak out about the lack of jobs as college becomes worthless and everyone has too much college debt.

        This show made me think deeply about my future (again), worrying about whether doing high end stonework is a good long term plan. I don’t want to keep doing it when I’m an old man, broke and miserable, like my old man.

        But there’s endless opportunity in the world, I think if I get some land and pay it off I’ll be good. Figure out a way to make money that doesn’t kill me later.

        • What you should do is become very high end, market yourself to almost an, “if you can afford me” level. Travel if need be but take only the best most premium highest paying work, (publicly anyway). Take jobs that pay 6 figures as a long term goal. Create an internship to apprentice to master program and market it just as hard.

          Find who is in this niche now, do things just a little better, edgier and more creative then they do. Market yourself as better than them, this is all subjective anyway.

          When you are your old man’s age 50 people should be doing work under your name and one of those 50 should be a bright enough bulb to be your company president by that time.

          Robots may lay bricks but they can’t do the type of work you can do.

        • To be blunt this is the customer you want.

          You, “we can get that stone but it only comes from 2500 miles away, it will add 25% to the cost”.

          Customer, “I really don’t give a fuck, that is what I want, write it up and let’s roll”.

          In other words you want customers like me that are just more financially affluent than I am. And most people who are more affluent than I am are a LOT LIKE ME.

          We don’t give a shit about cost as long as it is in our budget, just stop talking, take my fucking money, get it done the way I want it, meet your time commitments and don’t fuck it up. Oh and put breakage head room in your bid because if you break something expensive, I am not buying the replacement you are.

        • As I read the above I realize how many 20 somethings would find what I just said offensive. Then I sigh, because it is the truth and exactly what they need and society and their parents are insulating them from it.

        • I’d like to give a print out of the exchange you two just had to every 13 year old who feels down on themselves because “they’re not academic enough” and “they need to get an education to get a good job”.

          They could pretty much skip 5-10 years of angst and self doubt and start honing their skill(s) at 13 instead having a perpetual existential crisis, then deciding they want to “work with their hands” when they’re 33 except they can’t take the risk because they have a partner and kids and college debt, blah blah blah.

          I’ve worked in woodwork since I was about 17 and am amazed the amount of former professionals who come into the industry in their 30’s & 40’s only to leave disappointed because they can’t hack the physicality and can’t handle the responsibility finding solutions to practical problems and then DOING it, to see if it works.

          I’ve actually thought of setting up a middle aged apprenticed program – not the wording I’d use to market it – to help wealthy professional types transfer into high end craftwork because so many of them fail to adapt to the change, even though they have the advantage of already mixing in the right social circles to procure some very lucrative work.

        • From the movie, The Breakfast Club

          Claire: What’s wrong with you? Why don’t you like yourself?

          Brian: ‘Cause I’m stupid…’cause I’m failing shop. See, we had this assignment, to make this ceramic elephant, and um…and we had eight weeks to do it and we’re s’posed to, and it was like a lamp, and when you pull the trunk, the light was s’posed to go on. My light didn’t go on; I got an F on it. Never got an F in my life. When I signed up, you know—for the course, I mean—I thought I was playing it real smart, you know. ‘Cause I thought, “I’ll take shop; it’ll be such an easy way to maintain my grade point average.”

          John: Why’d you think it’d be easy?

          Brian: Have you seen some of the dopes that take shop?

          John: I take shop. You must be a fuckin’ idiot!

          Brian: I’m a fuckin’ idiot because I can’t make a lamp?

          John: No, you’re a genius because you can’t make a lamp.

          Brian: What do you know about Trigonometry?

          John: I could care less about Trigonometry.

          Brian: Bender, did you know without Trigonometry, there’d be no engineering?

          John: Without lamps, there’d be no light.

        • Poetry.

          Funny how I loved that film when I was a kid for one set of reasons, now I love that film for totally different reasons.

          If there is one thing that your history segment reinforces, it’s that there is no dichotomy between people who think and people that do, it is up to you. The lie there’s a difference is, ironically enough a piece of engineering, social engineering.

          It reminds me of the great – though on the surface socialist – book ‘ The ragged trousered philanthropists ‘ which includes the phrase….

          “The men works with their hands, the masters work with the heads”

          This phrase is used by one worker to stop another worker having ideas “above his station”….

        • That model is EXACTLY what I intend to do. I love stonework the way an artist loves painting, I just need the customers who want the art and want to pay for it. And they’re out there.

          I never thought about having that many people under me. I’ve actually been thinking a lot about exit strategies in micro businesses. There’s no recurring or ‘passive’ income in a tiny contracting operation. There would be with 50 people under me. That solves that problem.

          As for not being academic enough, it’s ironic because I was always a book smart nerd. Got a 33 on the ACT, which is out of 36. 99th percentile. Haven’t gone to college for a lot of reasons including ending up near homelessness my senior year of school along with not wanting the debt.

          Bright mind + trade skill art + not giving a fuck that “blue collar” people are supposed to be “lower class,” or about anything else + having the importance of sacrifice and hard work finally click after 3 years of struggle and hardship = success it looks like.

          Hopefully I can find employees.

          I’ve been working basically 7 am to 10 pm so far this week, working for a woodworker right now to get some money together, and all my friends think I’m crazy for working so much. Nobody my age can handle shi. We’ve been way too insulated. I thank God for my violent father and alcoholic mother/stepfather and shit like fixing my car on the side of the road when it’s 40 below out, 65 below counting windchill, for giving me some spine.

          But I still feel like a pansy sometimes compared to how some of the old guys out there have worked and lived.

          One thing I want to do is mentor young adults/old teens in masonry, as a charity, to give back and pay it forward for everyone who’s helped me.

          Man I’m fucking pumped about life.

  5. Jake, I can’t be sure but I think the “cure cancer” from the story might be this:
    There is an altcoin called cure coin. Basically the mining has been replaced with medical research. It works on nearly any computer and uses less power than normal mining. Since it’s winter I have fired up my obsolete mining computer and I have it folding.
    If anyone wanted to get their feet wet in bitcoin without spending a ton for special gear this will do the trick. You won’t get rich but you can get involved, help a good cause and earn a satoshi or two.

  6. Jack,

    RE: your first question/talking point. Yes you’re right.

    But since most people including (probably) most of this audience don’t have 2+ hours a day every day or even a week or a month to check every fact and see if it’s right then we all all screwed. So you’re right- like my NMD tells me – unless you can personally do something about it (which is never) TURN OFF THE FREAKING NEWS – ALL OF IT!

  7. I was looking for the article that jack mentioned about vaccines and how a lady was prsecuted for bringijg up negative information on the subject. Was that this podcast? I didn’t see it in the show notes.