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Pukwudji
12 years ago

Regarding the hero who was fired:
While in general I agree that taking action is laudable, I also do not blame the company for adhering to their in-place policies as what the employee did had a likelihood of having a much different, less desireable outcome. I think this employee got lucky that when he confronted the robber the robber didn’t shoot the manager.
I’d really like to see the facts around how many robbery’s presented with compliance ended good or bad vs. the good and bad endings when the robber is confronted.
That said, I’d hire the guy, but then all my employees would be encouraged to carry and there will be a gun in the safe.

TexasWolf
TexasWolf
12 years ago
Reply to  Pukwudji

While I see where you are coming from, I have to say that we cannot keep looking at things through the lens of ‘least desirable outcome’. I could have had a ‘less desirable outcome’ while crossing the street at the light. We don’t (if we are smart) rely entirely on the crossing light, we also watch for oncoming traffic, as people will run red lights, etc. So relying on the word or actions of an individual who has already shown that he cannot/will not obey the common laws of society is not to be trusted or relied upon to make a rational decision on whether of not to harm someone during a robbery. If more people were willing to take the stand that this gentleman did and stand by our fellow citizens, we would get just that much closer to ‘every citizen a sentinel’ while at the same time sending a message to criminals that their actions will not be tolerated. Criminals are not afraid of the law or going to jail. If so, then there would be very little recidivism. Criminals are generally just really stupid people, and I refuse to rely on the judgement of a stupid person. I applaud this gentleman for taking a stand and hope that more people will take the right message from his actions and act as sentinels for their fellow citizens.

Mike
Mike
12 years ago
Reply to  TexasWolf

“As many times as people walk away, just as many times they don’t.” Absolutely not true.
Stores get robbed here in New England on a weekly basis & nobody gets killed. The thieves are almost always found by the POLICE, who are trained to use weapons.

“This man saved his manager’s life.” Nah, this man put his manager’s life in danger & lucked out.
Was this ex-Autozone employee trained with his weapon, or was he just some guy who uses his gun to compensate for his small dick? Could he hit the broad side of a barn? If I’m that manager with a gun to my head, I’d sure hope so. Otherwise, he should stay out of it, because the robber is most likely going to take the money & leave.

While Autozone’s reaction isn’t pretty, they did what they had to do. I don’t fault them for it.

Darby Simpson
12 years ago
Reply to  TexasWolf

@Mike: I’m damn sure glad I never had any co-workers like you.

Mike
Mike
12 years ago
Reply to  Darby Simpson

The feeling is mutual, Darby. Don’t come busting in the room with a gun when a robber has a gun to my head & only wants money.

BarnGeek
12 years ago

Great show as always Jack! I have to say ditto on working for yourself being the well worth the effort and better than anything in the corporate or job market. I had to chuckle when you said you sometimes have bad dreams about having a job! I have those sometimes too! They are scary!

Darby Simpson
12 years ago
Reply to  BarnGeek

That makes three of us. I have nightmares about a deadline on an HVAC design for an old employer. Then I wake up, thanking God it’s not real.

ghsebldr
12 years ago
Reply to  Darby Simpson

Make that 3. It’s been 26 years since I last worked in a machine shop and I still dream that I forgot to punch in and how the hell do I convince the foreman I was there on time.
I’ve been thinking for the last few years that it may be a built in guilt trip for not having to punch in like most other people still do.
Maybe I just need to install a time clock out in the greenhouses.

BarnGeek
12 years ago
Reply to  BarnGeek

I also have panik attacks everytime I here the churp of a nextel. Thank God I don’t here those much anymore. Call it Post Job Distress Disorder!

Melodee
Melodee
12 years ago
Reply to  BarnGeek

Yes, me too!! I laughed out loud when Jack said that. It’s been 15 years now that I’ve been self employed; and I still dream about being back at my old job in corporate America. Every time I wake up from one of those I just say “whew!”

Darby Simpson
12 years ago

@Modern Survival-

I’m glad that Ben got you hooked on ACRES USA. I mentioned it to you about a year ago, but for whatever reason it didn’t stick. I’m really interested in Mark Shepard’s style of farming and plan on studying it in more detail. ACRES is also it’s own publisher with farmer/authors, and Mark is no exception. He has a new book that came out last week:

http://www.acresusa.com/books/closeup.asp?action=search&prodid=2213&catid&pcid=2

BarnGeek
12 years ago

The entrepreneurship portion of your show gave me an idea.

Consider a different marketing angle for those who have taken a PDC and want to market their services to customers who will be open to it.

Here is your demographic:

Hunters who own land and want to provide habitat for wildlife that consists of cover and food sources.

and

Owners of Hunting ranches who would like a design that includes highly nutritious plantings that will grow trophy sized game with minimal inputs.

It should be easier to market to these types of folks. They should be more open to permaculture ideas.

If you play your cards right you might just end up with a contract where you not only design the ranch or ferrel land for a fee, but you also go in and harvest the excess. You could even sell your management services to the same client and have an ongoing contract. You could end up farming for a living and not actually own or lease a single acre of land.

There is a whole lot more that could be said on this, much more than is prudent to post here but maybe Jack could elaborate on another entrepreneur theme podcast.

Darby Simpson
12 years ago
Reply to  BarnGeek

You hit an interesting point that reminds me of a segment of a Greg Judy book. Greg leases (and owns) land in MO for grazing beef cattle. He manages the land so well, that one of the natural consequences is that the deer population surges and produce fat, trophy animals. His landlords won’t even consider leasing the property out to any other farmers because they love to hunt, and can now lease excess hunting areas out at a premium. So he’s paying them to lease the land, which in essence pays them again because of his grass management and the deer. Permaculture pays dividends many times over.

BarnGeek
12 years ago
Reply to  BarnGeek

Thank you Darby, and Jack!

I am hoping some PDC graduates take that idea and run with it. There is so much opportunity and land that could be put under the great managment ideas of permaculture.

And there is big money in hunting. Enough to give permaculture an extra shot in the arm as it goes mainstream.

Joey
Joey
12 years ago

No need to single out autozone here, good chance the other corp parts stores (and most stores in general) have a similar policy.

Scott
Scott
12 years ago
Reply to  Joey

Well, Autozone is the guilty party in this case and the story was pretty wide spread- even appearing on the Drudge Report.

That said, I wish Jack wouldn’t tweak to the choir on things like this. I really hate it when he yells. It’s not like the CEO of Autozone is tuning in, right?

LD
LD
12 years ago

TexasWolf–thank you for the great remarks. I too grow weary of all the yes……..but folks, that try to be politically correct with every statement. Either you are for the hero and former Autozone employee, or you are not. I am absolutely for him. He was interviewed Sunday by Tom Gresham, and I wanted to cheer when he said, “if I could do it over, I would do it again, no regrets, I will find another job”. Tom has a podcast, and you can listen to the interview.

Brian W
Brian W
12 years ago

Regarding the 2030 shift – In the article it states “You have a huge problem on the resource side,” Burrows said. “How do you manage all this prosperity that is putting a lot of strain on the resources?”… The solution to resource shortages will have to be public and private sector cooperation, Burrows said. “
“At the same time, though, communications technology is shifting political power from nations “toward multifaceted and amorphous networks that will form to influence state and global actions,” the report says.”
I read that as code for “we need increased fascism”. Our (the US) great depth of resources is going to need to be “managed” for the “global good” by multinationals, especially since “Total non-financial debt across G-7 countries has doubled since 1980 to 300 percent of GDP”. The governments are proving themselves (deliberately ?) incapable of managing their own affairs/resources. A “trustee(s)” will need to step in and manage the rest of the inheritance before it’s squandered.
A “black swan” for Agenda 21? 🙁

Perd Vert
Perd Vert
12 years ago

Anyone know the name of the nose filter product Jack mentioned on this show?

Thanks.

Archer
Archer
12 years ago