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joshinga
joshinga
8 years ago

Man, Jack, you hit it on the head about environmentalism killing itself. I’ve ALWAYS hated litter, destroying the planet, letting the water run when brushing your teeth, etc. But man, the last thing I want to be labeled is as an environmentalist simply because of the intolerance and bullying witnessed by their advocates. Bill Nye, Michael Mann, East Anglican U. in the UK and the list goes on and on. Little tyrants all these guys. Oh can’t forget Neil DeGrasse Tyson either. http://www.steynonline.com/7661/the-craziness-of-the-climate-science-echo-chamber

Now that the Trumpster will reduce their funding my inclination, hope, is that they’ll recede and true environmentalism will arise. Funny how the desire for money affects us all. No funding, no research grants, no media and lo and behold, these people will be off to another topic.

And then with these people behind us maybe we can reclaim true environmentalism and focus on getting rid of this strip mining. I literally can’t believe this is legal. The destruction to the beauty of Appalachia is simply beyond comprehension. I very much appreciate your experience and passion towards this.

joshinga
joshinga
8 years ago

Actually on a side note. How you discussed how the left destroyed the term environmentalism made me think of how they did the same to the term liberal. I’m a liberal in the purest sense but now we have to call ourselves CLASSICAL liberals because the other liberal is socialist and would be silly if not so dangerous.
Same with what they did to anarchist.
The left destroys everything it touches. THis is why I support Trump SOMEONE has to stand up to these people. And once they’re defeated maybe, just maybe we can go back to trying to be free again. Not holding my breath of course.

Dennis Alan City Boy Homesteader

Jack where in Central PA are those areas from ww2 that were stripped mined? I would like to check them out and document it. Just moved to Central PA as my walk to freedom and luckily im at the top of a great water shed… for now
http://www.dennisalan.com

joshinga
joshinga
8 years ago

All that black stuff is the remnants of strip mining? How long has it been like that? That is f’ing horrible man!

The companies will say they will engage in reclamation projects, but this doesn’t look like ANYTHING has grown there.

Jack, I know you’re busy, but man, check out the Morenci mine in Morenci AZ via google maps. https://www.google.com/maps/place/Morenci+mine/@33.0503873,-109.403784,20907m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x8727f6d5b727780d:0xe21c0514a8c5ea24!8m2!3d33.1011215!4d-109.3654726

Not sure if that link will work. A long time ago I used to do some work up here, is this the same kind of mining, ie. strip mining? except this is in the desert?

I will never forget the size of the trucks that were hauling stuff out of the mine in order to get copper. The tires of these trucks were 3 times the size of me. The amount of land being moved was just incredible.

Simply can’t be good.

Mark
Mark
8 years ago

A few things.

1. I’d love to hear a history of anarchism or at least the part of Spanish-Franco war and the anarchy-communists.

2. I’m ok with hearing the number 1 song for the time being. It is interesting to know. I do also appreciate you picking songs, particularly if it relates well to the show or a topic on the show.

3. Voluntaryism- I love the idea of it. As I said last week in a blog comment, I think the nation would be a lot happier with each other and we would have a lot less anger at other people.
I had a conversation recently with a friend and we discussed Planned Parenthood. My argument to her was that I didn’t mind if other people funded it. I had a problem with being forced to pay for things that I don’t want to. And vice versa for her. I said I think it’d be a better situation for all if we were able to choose what we financially supported and not had out money taken from us to pay for what the Congress thinks we should pay for. She agreed and she said she’d be happy to be able to pay for PP without others being forced to.
I love the idea of anarchy but if we had a voluntary society within this republic, we wouldn’t ever even need to go there. There would be far less government control and force in a voluntary system. And yes, I agree that no state would be ideal. But I’m also like you Jack and I’m pragmatic. I’m just not sure we could get there.

L. Tiemens
L. Tiemens
8 years ago

I love the choice of song-of-the-day being one of the top ten popular songs of the particular year covered in that day’s history segment!

Roy Green
Roy Green
8 years ago

Hey Jack, I agree that climate change is a toxic term in a certain segment of the population. In my corporate fortune 1000 role, I never mention climate change as it immediately goes to politics.

I am not afraid of the term, nor should I be. I just chose not to get into as it is not necessary to drive business value related to CSR. I only mention it when a customer begins this conversation. This proves your point!

From my bias (we all have them), I think AGW denial could equally be called a religion as most people who site the “anti-climate change science” is based on “belief” and “common sense” and most of the time not actually looking at the science.

When have you put your bias back on the shelf an re-looked at the science? I recently did so and started from zero. I don’t want to get into non meaningful debates but when I re-looked at the science and studies and did my own research on both sides…I came to the same conclusion. Humans are tipping the balance with CO2, Methane, Water Vapor and Deforestation activities.

These are my conclusions and are based on compelling, evidence based studies.

Even though we disagree on this particular issue, I love your show it makes my day go by better. Thanks and keep up the good work.

Roy Green
Roy Green
8 years ago
Reply to  Roy Green

Hello Modern Survival, I would actually like to hear what you have to say and would like to read the studies that you are referring to. In my world, we have direct business value from customers with climate change / carbon mitigation goals.

Jason R
Jason R
8 years ago

Jack,

I like the idea of the number 1 song until we get up to present day.

Thanks

Jason

joshinga
joshinga
8 years ago

” 97% of sportswriters agree that Tom Brady is the best qb in history.”

Turns out those sports writers all are Patriots fans but hey, why should we believe they have a thumb on the scale. Surely, they’ll give an honest assessment.
Oh, turns out they get paid by advocating for the Patriots too. But again…sports science. After all it’s 97% and they are the authority. Just look at their pedigree.

Other sports writers who say maybe Joe Montana should be considered, well they are just deniers. They must be paid by the 49ers. They don’t follow true sports science AND they should be banned. Because Sports Science.

In regard to global temps. To paraphrase old Joe Stalin, doesn’t matter who votes, it matters who counts the votes. How are you measuring the temps?? That would probably be meaningful to know, one would think. Satellites or thermometers sitting by an industrial AC unit in an asphalt parking lot?

I would chuckle more about this complete rubbish if it weren’t being beaten into my kids at government school every flippin’ day. BIll McKibbon, BIll Nye the whole run of em. And kids being kids are listening and breathing it in and feeling the world is literally dying in front of their eyes and we’ll all be dead in a generation. It’s sad actually.

Yet there ARE real flipping environmental problems. Soil destruction, strip mining, etc.

Pearl
Pearl
8 years ago
Reply to  joshinga

” there ARE real flipping environmental problems. Soil destruction, strip mining, etc.”
And cutting down the trees. Bill Mollison (who made up Permaculture) explains how the trees have SO much to do with where water falls, and how air flows. Jared Diamond’s “Collapse” book is quite a bit about how societies cut down all the trees, then died of drought. I see so many comments on the net about CO2 and such, no one seems to notice the loss of trees…

How can we get that out there?

Instead of people whining about your light bulbs, I’d love to see them giving away lots of trees, and free planting service for people who need it. As soon as I can do so, I plan to do exactly that. Propagate trees, take my tractor and an auger to people’s house and give them planted trees.

Warren Puckett
Warren Puckett
8 years ago

What are one or two examples of anarchism that worked for a group of people larger than a small village or commune?

Warren Puckett
Warren Puckett
8 years ago

I’ll check it out Jack.

Eddie
Eddie
8 years ago

With regards to 1 in the chamber, this guy uses his wife to demonstrate it.
I carry with one in the chamber always….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhTyG-8ShsQ

Jay
Jay
8 years ago

NPR interviewed a guy who made his living in his own words creating fake news and selling adds…

His sites were designed to be too close for people to tell they were fake at first glance.

http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2016/11/23/503146770/npr-finds-the-head-of-a-covert-fake-news-operation-in-the-suburbs

Jason Silberschneider
Jason Silberschneider
8 years ago

Your comment that listeners will be saying “You’ve gone too far, Jack, libertarianism is enough” reminded me of the phrase, “Excellent is the enemy of good.”
Bringing one liberal/conservative over to libertarianism would do far more good than bringing one libertarian over to anarchism.
I became an anarchist thanks to listening to this show, but I never use the word. Instead I just describe the concepts.

Robert in Oklahoma
8 years ago

Uh, Jack, I do need to correct you on the no taxes on stuff shipped in. Almost every state with a sales tax has what is known as a use tax on products purchased out of state and brought into the state. These taxes apply even if you the customer didn’t physically leave the state to purchase the product. And most of these laws date back quite a while, though it is only with modern business websites and information systems that their enforcement at the retailer level for items sold to individuals have really become economically viable.