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KAM
KAM
13 years ago

@Jack,

I can’t tell you how many times I had to say “just punch that into your register” in order to get them to understand “making change.”
They have a Computer in front of them that gives them the answer, and sometimes they still can’t do it.

marauder
marauder
13 years ago

Steam is not “hotter” than boiling water…at least in any of our kitchens. It’s an atmospheric pressure thing…

And I totally get your point about freezing on a sheet tray–do it all the time, with just about everything we freeze–but you aren’t “flash freezing” anything in a consumer grade chest freezer. Nowhere near cold enough. Commercial flash freezers use liquid nitrogen and an elaborate fan system. And if you dry off that excess water, you will have even better results.

Modern Survival
13 years ago
Reply to  marauder

@marauder, well it is about pressure but under pressure steam is a LOT hotter than boiling water. Here you go this explains it pretty well, http://missvickie.com/workshop/howdoesit.html

You are correct that it has to do with pressure but that pressure drives the steams temps way up from 212.

Oil Lady
Oil Lady
13 years ago

RE: Ancestors preserving food for just weeks or months:

Colonial era Americans faced what became known as “Six Weeks of Want.” That was a roughly six-week period from mid-April to the end of May (and even as late as the first week of June) where there wasn’t yet anything in the garden able to be eaten, but last year’s food stores had already run out. So during the Six Weeks of Want, the Colonists had to hunt and fish for meat, and forage for dandelions and fiddle heads for fresh greens. They would wait in earnest for things like spring peas to finally come to maturity in the garden.

http://www.centralmass.org/media-center/releases/spring-early-new-england-%E2%80%9Csix-weeks-want%E2%80%9D-osv

The great wish of that era was that they could somehow find a way to grow enough food and simultaneously preserve enough food to make it last all the way from October to June.

Man, we are SOOOOOOOOO spoiled today.

bluprint
bluprint
13 years ago
Reply to  Oil Lady

Nice post. Thanks.

bluprint
bluprint
13 years ago
Reply to  bluprint

Let me elaborate: I’ve actually wondered about this. When I think about what I produce, I’ve thought basically in terms that “if the colonists could do it then i could do it”…interesting to know that in the past having food through the year was a problem.

Rock
Rock
13 years ago

Episode 731…I can using metal cans, with nitrogen gas added. It is cheaper than other ways, and the shelf life is many years. Dried corn with nitrogen will still sprout 15 years later, at 85% germanation. The set up cost is a lot, but mine payed for itself in three weeks.

marauder
marauder
13 years ago

@Jack,

Just re-listened to the show. You’re absolutely right, I missed the context of the “steam is hotter than water” re: pressure canning. Apologies on that one.

marauder

Steph in Nova Scotia
Steph in Nova Scotia
13 years ago

Anyone ever brew (soda) pop? Granted it isn’t the most healthy thing in the world, but at least if you make it yourself you can chose the ingredients. I’ve done it from extract, but I’d rather do it from the actual original ingredients. Anyone know a good source of information?

Thanks! Great show! *Listens to the Excalibur running in the basement*

Oil Lady
Oil Lady
13 years ago

Some people in the hill towns around me here in Western Massachusetts make their own homemade root beer, and birch beer, and ginger beer. I’ve tried homemade ginger beer and it’s quite yummy.

RB
RB
13 years ago

Loved this subject but I could not help but comment on the food myth: alcohol evaporates from cooked food quickly. Like a lot of ‘truths,’ it did not hold up to scrutiny.

This article explains it nicely: http://www.ochef.com/165.htm

Makes me giggle about how much wine-cake alcohol I served to my classmates in elementary school. I turns out that the class clowns were not that far off the mark.

RB
RB
13 years ago
Reply to  RB

There are non alcoholic wines that should do better as a substitute than grape juice.

Greg Harvey
Greg Harvey
13 years ago
Reply to  RB

I saw a Food Network show that demonstrated how most of the alcohol does stay in the foods cooked. Someone brought a rum cake to work once and I asked if they needed a liquor license to serve it. It was stout! For those who don’t care enough to investigate their errors, the website said it could take three HOURS to cook off all the alcohol. “It isn’t what you don’t know that is the problem, its what you do know that ain’t so.”

Karen
13 years ago

I wonder if there is hope for America. My son and his girlfriend have a house in the inner city. He has managed to have a successful garden in a series of boxes he built for that purpose. They thrive although the yard is baron at this 120+ year old house. They hosted a garden party featuring a veggie trade table and a number of fresh veggie snacks and dipping sauces. It was a wonderful event.
Near the end his next door neighbor came over. She is a very nice woman in her late 30s or so and a counselor a the local HS. My son gave her a larger zucchini and some cherry tomatoes. With a very blank look on her face she turned to me to ask what she was to to with them. After I picked my jaw up off of the floor a gave her some cooking suggestions.
I realized after that she is representative of the folks you see at the grocery store who have a can of coffee, a bottle of juice, a couple pieces of fruit, a carton of Ben & Jerry’s and a half dozen TV dinners in their cart and call it weekly grocery shopping. (They are usually in the 10 or less lane as well.) I feel bad for these folks who have no desire to learn to cook for themselves and I say this as I hear the whirl of the dehydrator and the crock pot bubbling in the kitchen.

Jim
Jim
13 years ago

Dear Jack,

Have you read the book “The China Study?”

Or maybe you’ve read the book “Healthy at 100?”

Are you familiar with the Framingham nurses study, the longest-running study of its kind?

Or maybe the medical work of Ornish? Or McDougall? Or Fuhrman?

If not, I encourage you to take a look, especially at the first one, The China Study.

If you choose not to, I would certainly understand. But I hope you do, because, as it is now, you sound like someone who is trying to bend reality to fit what’s in his head, instead of a survivor who adjusts his behavior to fit reality.

Jack, your family, your community, and your audience need you as a survivor. Please, take the time to educate yourself on this subject.

Wishing you the best,
Jim

Jimbo
Jimbo
13 years ago

Jack tried to tweet this using your link but it came up several times with no URL…