Episode-451- Seven Underrated Centerfire Rifle Calibers — 10 Comments

  1. We have killed three deer with one along with several exotic rams and a few small feral hogs. It is damn deadly with 158 grain flat points, stay away from hollow points. It is a 100 yard or less round the only reason I don’t really like it for Texas is because you get some 200 plus yard shots but if you don’t mind stalking and accepting the limits or hunt the pine forests in the eastern part of the state it is fine.

    Don’t let anyone tell you it ain’t enough, you get 357 Maximum velocities when you put the Mag through a 22 inch barrel. Info on the Max is here

    Consider those numbers roughly equivalent to what the mag does in a handi rifle.

  2. Great episode Jack. A Tikka T3 in 6.5 swede is high up on my wish list. I love my 30/06 but at 6.5lbs it’s not fun to shoot.

    Also, Chuck Hawks has a great article on the 6.5×55mm Swede and sectional density. (hope it’s ok to post the link)

    Another problem with “popular calibers” is that in a SHTF situation the military would probably need to acquire even larger quantities of ammunition and likely buy up a lot of what would have gone to the civilian market, making it even harder to acquire.

  3. I love my Marlin 1895 in 45-70. It is a hoot to shoot and fun to reload for.
    You can load those rounds hot enough to bruse your shoulder, or light enough to plink all day.
    Black powder, smokeless, light or heavy bullets. With the right handloads you can drop a white tail or defend yourself from a angry Grizzly.
    Still hoping that one day I can get an elk with that rifle…

    I called in to you during the height of the “Great Ammo shortage of 2009” about my observation of the absence of “common” calibers. That experience led me to buy my Savage .17HMR, since I could find ammo everywhere.
    So you could say the Obamammo shortage led me to a rifle that will shoot 1/2inch groups at 50 yards!

    As always thanks Jack!

  4. I’m surprised you mentioned some wildcat rounds I’ve never even heard of but did not mention 8mm mauser or .300 savage. It was an interesting topic, regardless, Jack.

  5. Jack, we don’t have 350 pound white tails here in Maine. Anything over 200 is considered big. Now, moose are another story…

  6. @Bob, good call out on me there, that was a 250 that became a 350 when I got into BS campfire mode for a moment. Easy to do when talking about guns.

  7. Outstanding show Jack. I truly appreciated the discussion of rifles and different calibers. I actually observed the same exact situation of availability of these odd ball cartridges when the ammo was thin at the stores. I had to listen to the show 3 times, it was that good!

  8. Now that i have a 357 handgun it really makes me want to get Handy-Rifle.Or a lever action.

  9. Rifles chambered for pistol rounds have become popular in recent years. After a fair bit of research it seemed to me that the .357 Keith cartridge was well suited in a lever action, and could also shoot .38 caliber too. Have you ever stopped to wonder why a .38 isn’t really thirty eight thousandths?

    What does .45-70 signify? The first number is the nominal diameter of the bullet (though see above); the second number
    is how many grains of the old, smoky black powder were used behind the bullet. The advent of modern smokeless propellents allowed for completely new cartridges, but many (like .38) continued on.

    Using .38 “cowboy” loads recoil is nothing and fine for plinking and having fun. I have a Henry lever action, it is a wonderful rifle, but technically speaking an Uberti might have been a better choice, it is identical in function to the original.

    .38 and .357 also have the advantage of being simplest to reload, being straight wall cases. Don’t reload yet but have that in the back of mind, saved the brass. We set back quite a bit of ammo before buying the rifle.