Jack,
Good show- I think silver is a good bet and right now it is available which is a good time to purchase. When the system starts to crash, it won\’t be, as most will panic. Right now only about 2% of investors (I read) are into purchasing pm\’s, but the herd could easily start to stampede – I feel it is best to have the physical metal at hand. You did a good job on 9/11 and there is lots more but it was succinct – the patriot act is also a major area of study – it was prepared before 9/11 and pushed for years (1996 Anti-terrorism Act)and goes a long way towards dismantling constitutional rights.

You do a real service – I personally would stop calling people tin-hatters. They are the true heroes of our country. Good that the fluoride info
is getting out.

I feel it is like a dam breaking and more and more folks are coming out of the sleep walk. I appreciate all that you do for others.

Regarding floridation of public water I agree that if it doesn\’t fix the problem why take the risk. But I did some quick online research and its true that the primary chemical used to floridate the water is a toxic byproduct of the phosphate fertilizer industry. However, a 2004 CDC report concludes that there is no risk from floride water and that it actually does help prevent cavities. Now I don\’t know if the doctor in the news article has better. more up to date information regarding the dangers of floride, he probably does but either way I\’m with Jack why risk it.
http://www.cdc.gov/Fluoridation/pdf/pollick.pdf

I just came in from listening to this while working in the garden and checked the news and Foxnews.com has a big headline about fluoride. I think they must also be listeners.
Great job! You do a great show that I look forward to every day.

Our local water system has no fluoride. We\’ve lived here over 20 years. A few times some have pushed to have fluoride added to the water, but it isn\’t happening.

I remember a car with \"fluoride kills!\" written all over it, covering rear and side windows, driving crazily, speeding, weaving in and out of traffic and thinking his driving will kill him and some one else quicker than fluoride.

Yet every time I hear things against fluoride in the water, a visual image of the crazy guy in the car flashes back.

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I\’ve been following Kiyosaki\’s Conspiracy of the Rich, few days back he posted how our economy hit the point of no return. He made several similar points.

How wars have been financed through history by the hidden tax – inflation.

Inflation leads to loss of freedoms and dictators often come into power at such times.

Point of no return is when debt exceeds 73% GDC and debt exceeds 230% of external exports. We are at 96% GDC and 748% of external exports.

\"the government and fed are powerless to prevent financial crisis. It\’s lunacy to expect the government to save you. You must save yourself.\"

When things crashed in Germany Hitler took power, German people had no idea there was a problem with their economy till end of its 9 year massive drop. As inflation climbed people were excited, money flowed, jobs. Then the crash.

\"Most important thing you can do is to think for yourself.\"

Fluoride will chip your teeth after years of usage. Beware: don’t swallow fluoride toothpaste! I use Toms of Maine fluoride free toothpaste and don’t drink city water full of chemicals.

My concern on barter taxation isn’t about reporting it as income to the IRS. It’s more about reporting as revenue for sales taxes. The state tax commission doesn’t care if you turned a profit. They just want a percentage of the gross. They don’t worry about “casual” sales, like trading tomatoes for a haircut with your neighbor. But an ongoing business that deals in physical goods with the general public out of a store front, that doesn’t collect or pay anything resembling sales tax… They might have a big problem with that.

Note on income with barter: If you try to keep each biz purchase under a certain threshold value for capitalization, then it can be expensed immediately and written it down to zero. Thus the barter with that item is effectively off the books. I could be wrong though. Not an accountant.

I already responded to Jack this quackish article he posted, but I’ll throw my two cents here.

1. Prove that low level fluoride consumption cracks teeth. True, high levels are quite dangerous (I deal with it every day), but people have been brushing their teeth with fluoride containing toothpaste for how many years and drinking public water for how long?

2. “Natural” fluoride vs. “waste” fluoride. There is no such thing as natural fluoride. Fluoride exists “naturally” as calcium fluoride, an insoluble mineral. This is processed with sulfuric acid at VERY high temperatures in very large rotating kilns to produce hydrogen fluoride (and calcium sulfate). In this process, quite a bit of fluorosilicic acid is made due to silicon dioxide impurities in the fluorspar (calcium fluoride). The fluorosilicic acid dosed into the drinking water is converted into free fluoride by the time it hits your house.

H2SiF6 + 4H2O —> 6HF +Si(OH)4

Si(OH)4 is unstable and rapidly polymerizes or reacts to form SiO2 (virtually non-toxic).

So the only difference between dosing sodium fluoride and fluorosilicic acid is you have less sodium in your body and more silicon oxide.

3. Waste byproduct…hey, guess what? MANY of the things you consume EVERY day were once waste byproducts. Who cares? If they can properly distill it and separate it from impurities, who cares where it comes from. Natural gas was once considered a waste byproduct that was simply flared. There are hundreds if not thousands of chemicals you consume every day that were once wastes.

No, he’s a quack because he makes many ridiculous claims. Yes, some of his article is true, but just because you throw in a few truths doesn’t make a good paper. More over, how did I agree with him?

As for the toxic waste comments, MOST industrial scale chemicals need to be treated in some sort of manner before they can be disposed of. Iodine for example is a NASTY NASTY compound when pure, but we still need it in small quantities (and get it with iodized salt). Most food dyes are terribly toxic in pure form. Too much iron in your diet can be harmful (test your well water). Heck, even high does of B vitamins have been shown to cause cancer.

Safety:
Like global warming, it’s not a black and white issue. There are studies that show no direct link of NORMAL (i.e. 1 ppm) fluoride levels and hip fractures. Studies also show a direct correlation between fewer cavities and fluoride dosing.

http://www.york.ac.uk/inst/crd/CRD_Reports/crdreport18.pdf

You’re getting distracted from a MUCH more hazardous substance that’s put into drinking water….chlorine! Chlorination of drinking water may reduce bacterial levels, but you’re introducing a highly oxidative substance into your body. Not to mention that chlorination of drinking water produces detectable levels of carcinogenic substances like chloroform and methylene chloride.

The take away message…get yourself a berkey!

First off, I didn’t post a government link. Its research done at a university in the UK. If you are so slanted against peer reviewed publications that you will outright dismiss it without meriting their claims, I don’t think we can have a productive discussion.

On that note, having lived in the UK for a short period, its citizens are MUCH more sensitive to question things like pesticides, additives, etc.

The article makes very few claims…here are those I can find.

1. “When natural mineral fluoride is placed onto the surface of your tooth enamel, it helps remineralize that enamel, thus improving your resistance to cavities.”

Response: Agree to a point. There’s no such thing as natural mineral fluoride.

2. “But to swallow fluoride in order to treat your teeth is a lot like swallowing hair coloring chemicals to change the color of your hair. If you’re going to treat the area with the topical treatment, you’re not supposed to swallow it. You’re supposed to put it in contact with the surface needing treatment.”

Response: His analogy is crap. Swallowing hair color never touches your hair. Drinking fluoride containing water DOES come in contact with your teeth.

3. “To make matters even worse, it’s not that municipalities are actually dripping genuine fluoride into the water supplies in the first place.”

Response: again this statement shows the ignorance of the author when it comes to chemistry. Fluorosilicic acid DOES provide the EXACT SAME FLUORIDE ION AS SODIUM FLUORIDE.

4. “a toxic waste product produced in the smokestacks of various industrial chemical producers.”

Response: Guess what, sodium fluoride is a toxic waste as well. Just about any inorganic chemical must be treated in some manner before its disposed of. It’s also illegal to dump sodium fluoride into a landfill or stream.

5. “the public debate about fluoride isn’t even about fluoride in the first place, because most cities that claim to be dripping “natural” fluoride into the water supply aren’t even buying natural fluoride to begin with. They’re buying the toxic waste product fluorosilicic acid and using that instead. Why? Basically because it’s cheaper and it starts with the letters f-l-u-o-r, meaning they can pass it off as fluoride since most people don’t know the difference.”

Response: Again, the guy needs to read a chemistry book.

6. “Women could eat lipstick to make their lips turn red”

Repsonse: The one analogy he makes that actually works!

7. “A lot of senior citizens in this country also suffer from hip fractures and bone loss due partly to an overdose of fluoride.”

Response: Again, no correlation to low levels of fluoride in drinking water and hip fractures. If the idiots are eating toothpaste, then that’s their own fault.

Comment: Another analogy he doesn’t make that I think he could would be the persistant dosing of vitamins in processed foods. There have been numerous studies showing that taking multivitamins does little to zero good (exception being D vitamin) and can actually do harm (i.e. iron or high levels of B vitamins).

He makes actually very few statements here except that H2SiF6 is a waste stream in some industrial processes. I won’t dispute this except to say that one mans waste is another mans treasure. I think the jury is definitely still out as to whether low levels of fluoride in drinking water do more harm than good.