Episode-1874- You Might Be an Anarchist If — 13 Comments

  1. Great show Jack. I’ve watched your progression to Anarchism with delight. On the use of force I have found the following definition very useful. Violence is the use of force to violate other peoples rights while force is the use of energy to push back against violence. Its a simple way to define between force when it is justified or not. Also as a side note, “The Green fields of France” was originally written by a Scottish-Australian folk singer called Eric Bogle. I have played many festivals along side him in Australia

  2. Ditto on Evan and the origins of the song. DKM also are not anarchists. They are most definitely leftists. Still a great band and have been listening to them for nearly 20 years.

    For me, the best part of that song is the line “Oh Will McBride it all happened again, and again and again and again and again.” It never ends.

    • It pained me to hear Jack call DKM anarchists. They are leftists through and through. Right to work? Nah, they want you to join a union by force. Handgun ownership? Nah. During the Bush/Kerry debates I was debating one of those clowns via email and they were so far left it was embarassing.

      Now they are so flippin trendy, I can’t even listen to them anymore. Sad because I used to go to some of their shows in Boston back in the late 90s and enjoyed them much, even have a 7″ split with them and the Ducky Boys.

      I believe people hurt the cause of anarchism when they confuse it with leftism. I’ve always been a believer in anarchism but don’t call myself an anarchist simply because most people attribute it to being a commie.

      I prefer the term anarcho-capitalist.

      Oh, and in my opinion, the best version of Greenfields of France is by the Angelic Upstarts:

      And their song “England” is also the patriotism I feel about the US. “you don’t have to be a flag-waving Nazi to love it.”

  3. Most people are mostly anarchist.

    To those who are reading this and respond with “say what!!??” … I ask you to determine what percentage of the decisions and choices that you make in how you deal with people were based on a law or legality versus reactions or morality?

  4. Hey Jack, you mentioned that you think Jesus was an anarchist. Yep. I concur. Well, sort of.. He is a monarchist, with God as king, everyone as his personal friend. You have often said that no anarchist state has worked, but here is a counter example: In the Israeli age of Judges, everyone did as they thought right, meaning that they had God as their leader.

    They had judges to make determinations in areas that were grey or disputed. Then when Samuel got old, the elders came and asked for a king. 1 Sam 8: But when they said, “Give us a king to lead us,” this displeased Samuel; so he prayed to the Lord. 7 And the Lord told him: “Listen to all that the people are saying to you; it is not you they have rejected, but they have rejected me as their king. 8 As they have done from the day I brought them up out of Egypt until this day, forsaking me and serving other gods, so they are doing to you. 9 Now listen to them; but warn them solemnly and let them know what the king who will reign over them will claim as his rights.”

    11 He said, “This is what the king who will reign over you will claim as his rights: He will take your sons and make them serve with his chariots and horses, and they will run in front of his chariots. 12 Some he will assign to be commanders of thousands and commanders of fifties, and others to plow his ground and reap his harvest, and still others to make weapons of war and equipment for his chariots. 13 He will take your daughters to be perfumers and cooks and bakers. 14 He will take the best of your fields and vineyards and olive groves and give them to his attendants.

    15 He will take a tenth of your grain and of your vintage and give it to his officials and attendants. 16 Your male and female servants and the best of your cattle[c] and donkeys he will take for his own use. 17 He will take a tenth of your flocks, and you yourselves will become his slaves. 18 When that day comes, you will cry out for relief from the king you have chosen, but the Lord will not answer you in that day.”… And some things change, some things don’t.

    • I’ll just add restating what I already did, Jesus message to be loyal to and follow God (and himself) was 100% voluntary, and hence there is ZERO conflict with anarchy.

      As to scriptures about kings reining etc. we will have to depart there, I feel religion all religion in the end is nothing but a tool for some men to justify their control of other men.

  5. Hey Jack, I think, if you read what Samuel said about what kings will do, that you would agree 100% with what a king (or any government) will do. That wasn’t making any statement about religion, other than at the end of what government will do to you, the people will pray to God for deliverance, and I think even you would agree with that idea:-) Before King Saul, Israel was an anarchy for 120 years. So, there has been a successful anarchy in the past.

    • a “successful anarchy” is our Gov’t itself.

      All these monies paid, back room deals and lobbyist. None of this is written under “law”. No legal contracts written yet we see the cost of these elections. Money is coming from somewhere and un-written favors are expected in return.

      It repeats over and over.

  6. Jack, what’s your take as an anarchist on immigration?

    I am 100% supporting the Trumpster simply because we’ve got to do something about our borders and he’s the only one, Repub or Dem, who actually was speaking on this. For me, nothing else matters. If we have no border security, we have no country.

    Many Austrian economists argue for free movement, essentially no borders, trade restrictions etc. However, about 15 years ago or so, even Milton Friedman, acknowledged that a country can’t have open borders with the welfare systems we currently have in place.

    Friedman isn’t an Austrian economist but he’s about as close as the mainstream would let one be.

    To be honest though, this is an issue I do struggle with. When the Khmer Rouge, ISIS, Commies are on the march, don’t we have an obligation to let people in who literally have guns to their heads?

    But at the same time, don’t we have the right to determine who gets in and can thus put restrictions?

    Anyway, not an easy answer for me. But for now, I say we gotta get control.

    Any thoughts on your end?

    • In a perfect world borders are imaginary lines made by man to be ignored by men who are not under the mental control of those who seek to control them.

      But this is not a perfect world! If I were president I would come up swiftly with several policies that would rapidly make people not care about immigration at all.

      Policy One – If you are an immigrant, legal or otherwise and you commit a violent crime of any type or a crime involving theft of property, you go down this path swiftly, prison – deportation – risk of 25 years and a second deportation if you return. If you are going to be a problem you are going to have to be a problem for your own nation, not ours.

      Policy Two – If you are here illegally and are found to be associated with any gang involved in criminal activity you get immediately deported, as in NOW, you also face 25 years and a second deportation if you return.

      Policy Three – If you are an immigrant, again any legal or illegal you do not qualify for any welfare programs at all, NONE, NOTHING, NADDA, you work those jobs Americans supposedly won’t do and earn a living or go home and collect your home nations welfare if they have it.

      Policy Four – No more anchor babies for illegal immigrants. As was intended any person here legally who has a child that child is a US Citizen, but, if they are here illegally they are not a US Citizen.

      Do that and this stops being the hot button issue it is today. People are not upset that someone from Mexico is vacuuming the hallway in a hotel or mowing grass on a golf course or picking oranges in Florida.

      No they are pissed that they are killing themselves to provide for their families while illegal aliens are getting free housing, food stamps, free health care and more.

      They are pissed because a person gets over the border, pops out a couple kids who are now “American citizens” and says but if you deport me you break up my family. That we now are paying benefits to these children under various welfare programs that their parents benefit from.

      They are pissed that people who are not even supposed to be here, commit crimes, real crimes with victims and get a short jail or prison stay and then are released without being deported, that alone is madness. That when we do deport such a person and they return, there is NO PENALTY for that.

      They are pissed that people here illegally are running around tatted up with gang symbols for MS13, Latin Kings, etc. and running with known criminal enterprises and no one does anything about it. That it would be relatively easy to stop talking about deporting 11 million and actually deport the roughly 1 million that are a problem. Then cut off the gravy train to the roughly 3.5 million sucking that down.

      The one million would be out of our prisons and off our streets, the 3.5 would become the hard working immigrants we are told they are or self deport and the other 5.5 million who really are just busting their ass and trying to live a better life would stop worrying about this and we would stop worrying about them.

      If the government did that, 80% or more in the end would support a path to citizenship for those who really are working hard and contributing to our nation.

      And you know what, the above could easily be sold to the American people. It would not solve the problem 100% but it would make it a much smaller problem then many we don’t get so upset about. Which is exactly why our government will never do it.

  7. I’m an AnCap. It’s not something I believe is doable today but the Philosophy holds true and uses the scientific method to find and use empirical facts. I’m done living my life hearing that 2+2=5 from politicians. I believe Capitalism is the natural system of a free people and that Gov’t is the obstacle in the way of true Capitalism. The ” Free Market ” can work when no ruling class has power to broker at point of a gun.

    I refuse to be a Subject and I’m not even sure I’m willing to be a Citizen.