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Robert
Robert
10 years ago

I haven’t listened to the show yet,but that Bill Dance bloopers are priceless I was laughing so hard, I was crying ..I love the permaculture shows but man I’m loving this fishing series… Can’t wait for my offshore trip

Shannon
Shannon
10 years ago

I remember reading that the turning point in the Revolutionary was wasn’t won by any Generals it was the “over the mountain men” (AKA Hillbillies)who got pissed when the red coats sent word to them in modern day Tennessee to come down from the mountains and surrender or they would kill every man woman and child, 900 Scotch Irish came down from the hills with hunting rifles stormed King’s mountain and laid waste to the red coats there, being experienced in mountain fighting (they had learned to fight that way from fighting Indians for 20 years) they lost very few men and took the Britts with ease and pretty much taught the US forces an new way to fight and it was the beginning of the end of the war…I might be wrong

Sean
10 years ago

Fun show, though in my neck of the woods I fish for trout from a canoe most of the time. Excellent advice on hiring a guide.

Rick Allen
Rick Allen
10 years ago

Good stuff! I sure miss my boat… and Toledo Bend. Put me down for the bonus episode. BTW, my favorite Bill Dance blooper is when he is maneuvering with the troll motor and it jumps off its mount. I think it was ONE of the times he fell into the lake. lol.

Shannon
Shannon
10 years ago

B.O.A.T. bust out another thousand LOL, that said I love boats but be prepared

Ben
Ben
10 years ago

Dang! If u grew up with a mother like that socialist-path, you’d probably put the pillow over your own face… Glad you followed that with a nice fishing episode.

Karim
Karim
10 years ago

Cooking show PLEASE.

Karim
Karim
10 years ago

What are your thoughts on smaller fishing boats like the Pelican Bass Raider? I am mulling buying one for fishing smaller bodies of water.

Brian
Brian
10 years ago

Jack, I agree that the fish cooking show would be awesome. If you want to take it to another level, here’s an idea. As many fish have a season, why not team up with Chef Keith? You put out your favorite ways to cook each fish and then Chef Keith could chime in with how to kick it up a notch, possibly with seasonal food that would be available during the same season as the fish. Make sure it comes out after lunch, though. You know how Chef Keith can be…

Max
Max
10 years ago

Hey Jack,

“Big nasty pointed teeth!” lol good stuff man, lots of good memories. Holy Hand grenade!

Eric
Eric
10 years ago

Jack,
I grew-up on Smith Lake in Alabama. 500 miles of shoreline and some great fishing. We would fish on a pontoon boat trawling the shores. Caught a lot of bass. We would also sink Christmas trees by our dock to make crappie beds. I miss living on the lake.
Looking forward to more fishing shows.
Keep up the good work!

Max
Max
10 years ago

Yeah about the anchor….. From the time I was 12 until 19 my dad had a pontoon boat and I never once forgot to pull up the anchor. That being said……..This past year two buddies and myself went on a fishing trip for a guys weekend leaving the wives and kids at home. We rented a pontoon boat for the day and we had to return the boat by 8:00pm. Well we waited until the last minute to drive the boat back to the dock. On the way back the boat was running like crap and we could not figure out what was wrong with it and we ended up being 30 mins late returning the boat. The woman that we rented from was upset that we were late and then we heard her yell, “Are you freaking kidding me!” “You guys had the anchor down the whole time!” At least we did not damage the boat and we did not lose the anchor. I’m hard pressed to think of a time that I felt so dumb. lol

Russell
Russell
10 years ago

Yes, A fish cooking show would be nice.

BarnGeek
10 years ago

You made a perfect case for a pro life society Jack. Thank you for that.

Max
Max
10 years ago
Reply to  BarnGeek

The Libertarian within me says let folks make their own choices. Just because abortion is wrong in my religion does not mean it has to be law. If you made it law based on Christian principles then you are forcing your religion on others via the law and that is not right. If I think about this issue with regards to Permaculture philosophy and work with nature rather than against it, the abortion process should not be considered. (This is not perfect either) Nature has a way of taking care of bad pregnancies, that’s call miscarriages. Let nature take its course and at the end if a child is born then great! For the mother that does not want the child there is adoption and that has its own issues. Adoption has become big business and it’s very expensive for people to adopt. A lot of the costs are not needed and if common sense was used in the adoption process then more kids would have parents and a permanent home. Anyways there is no way both sides could ever be happy.

Max
Max
10 years ago

I respect that and I agree with what you’re saying. My wife could not carry due to medical reasons so her sister carried our kids for us. We only had one shot at it because it was so dang expensive. So we had three fertilized eggs and the doctor implanted all three and the cool thing was we got to see every single stage of development. We ended up with two healthy boys that are now 5 years old. When only two of the three embryos took we were not devastated because that was not a child, there was no heart beat yet. So yeah maybe it should be up to science but I can tell you the moment I saw two little heart beats on the monitor they were babies in my heart.

BarnGeek
10 years ago
Reply to  BarnGeek

I agree Jack, for the most part.

It also sickens me when politicians use the issue simply to get elected no mater what office they seek.

I would be perfectly fine with your technique in defining where human life begins. I would however request that included in this panel of scientists there be geneticists who are leaders in the field of epigenetics.

Here’s why.

Through the science of epigenetics scientists have discovered that genes make choices based on the inputs they receive. Every part of a human being from toenails to the rhythm of your heart is decided not just in the genetic code but also by an array of switches turning certain instructions or genes on or off.

That 6 cell egg that you refer to is making decisions at lighting pace based on inputs it receives from the nutrition it receives to the history of it’s family tree. It takes cues from the current health of it’s parents, to the outside stimuli that comes from chemicals in the mothers sustenance.

This whole orchestra starts at conception and does not end until you breathe your last breath.

I think it would be very difficult to separate this self awareness, from that which is contained within our brains.

I mean scientifically speaking how do you put one sort of intelligence higher in value than another? If you did ask that question you would have to admit that without your epigenome you would not have a brain anyway.

Now that I have made a case for self awareness or conscientiousness in a one day old fertilized egg. I must make a case that it is an individual human life. After all you could argue that there are genes in sperm or an egg that include epigenetics and billions of those die everyday through natural processes.

While that is true, the egg is 100% the genetics of the woman it came from and the sperm is 100% of the genetics of the man it came from. So the death of these things are merely the death of a part of an individual human life and not the whole individual human life.

On the other hand as soon as the two blend, you have a new sequence of DNA that includes genes and epigenetics. If you abort that fertilized egg you have ended an individual human life. That is science and it is undeniable. DNA is the evidence that proves that abortion ends the life of an individual human.

So I have given scientific proof that a fertilized egg is and individual human life, and I have presented a case that suggests that life has the ability to make conscience decisions that supports my assertion that qualifies as self awareness or conscientiousness, and I never once quoted the bible or mentioned God.

So please stop assuming that we Christian base our entire philosophy on strictly the bible regardless of what science has discovered. Have I not proved in past posts that I have vetted out my beliefs through much research and not just the Bible?

Jack I think you have a wonderfully tuned gut morality. You have the ability to make good moral decisions on the fly and from the gut. We Christians would say that your spirit is in tune with the Holy Spirit.

You don’t have to be told that smothering a child with a pillow no mater how “handicapped” they might be is wrong. Everything in your being cries out against that and rightly so. I hope you continue to trust your gut.

Here is a video of the story of an abortion survivor, this woman is the most courageous person I have ever seen and the video is life changing. All I would ask is that you watch it and listen to your gut.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOWMmx6eBjU

BarnGeek
10 years ago

I asked the question based on science and you answered it based on morality.

Of course I place the intelligence of a chicken below the intelligence of a human. But I do that based on my morality. There is no way to do that based on science.

Let me ask you a moral question. They say a pig has the same level of intelligence as a 3 year old human. Do you value the life of a 3 year old human over the life of a pig?

As for law, yes keep religion out, but you cannot remove morality. Otherwise killing a 3 year old would be no different than killing a pig.

This is an issue that deserves a perfect line. I gave you a perfect line based on provable science, not religion.

BarnGeek
10 years ago

Well, science can tell you that the human brain is larger than a chickens, it can tell you that a human brain has more capacity.

Science can even determine that there is a larger amount of intelligence in humans than there are in chickens, but it cannot place one more valuable than another.

For that you have to make a moral decision, and that is why you cannot separate morality from law.

BarnGeek
10 years ago

@Modern Survival You said:

“While I do think it is a moral thing to not take human life that has nothing to do with the debate, the human life must exist for it to be a human, it must have some level of awareness or consciousness. ”

Whether it is morally right according to natural law has everything to do with the debate, because that is what our constitution is based on.

John Locke had some things to say about Self awareness.

“According to Locke, personal identity (the self) “depends on consciousness, not on substance” nor on the soul. We are the same person to the extent that we are conscious of our past and future thoughts and actions in the same way as we are conscious of our present thoughts and actions.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-awareness

It turns out that scientists have accepted this definition of self awareness and used it to conduct tests on Animals to see if they could be self aware by Locke’s definition.

Low and behold they found several animals that are self aware.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_consciousness

Should these animals have equal protection under the law the same as humans?

If they did this mirror test on animals to see if they were self aware I wondered if they did the test on humans.

Well sure enough they did.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirror_test

Turns out scientifically speaking humans are not self aware until on average the ripe old age of 18 months.

Can you set your morality aside and draw the line at 18 months?

I sure can’t.

You see Jack the Morallity of the issue is central to the debate. You cannot force science to place a moral value on life intelligent or not. Therefore you cannot base your “line” on a scientific test and expect that line to be in a place you are morally comfortable with.

reefmarker
reefmarker
10 years ago

Keep the fishing shows coming! I was just at Sanibel Island, Florida and kept thinking how great the fishing shows were.

Sinzitu
Sinzitu
10 years ago

Just got around to listening to this one. I’ll definitely vote for the 7th episode in the fishing series. Thanks!

LuSheeta
LuSheeta
10 years ago

I’d love a show on cooking fish! There’s so many topics you could cover: cooking at home, on a camp stove, over a fire, raw (and which fish can be eaten raw) how to tell the fish has cooked long enough without a thermometer… I’d specifically love some advice on how to cook trout while camping and make them less fishy. When I was a kid, my dad just used a little lemon juice and salt and I couldn’t eat it! Haven’t tried again as an adult.
Also, I loved listening to this episode even though I’ll probably never buy a boat because it was an exercise in critical thinking and an analysis of how to go about making any decision, not just buying a boat.
Thank you Jack!