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paul wheaton
9 years ago

Link to the spirko week stuff:
http://permies.com/t/52318

Link to residual income stream forum:
http://permies.com/forums/f-196/ri

Link to page about PIE:
http://permies.com/t/52136

Happy MGTOW
9 years ago

Good advice on the exercise/diet call. When I went strict paleo when I was late 30’s went from 36-37 waist to 33. am 6.2 160lbs for many years now weight wise. I eat only fat and protein with butternut squash and nuts (some) as my carb sources.

Gary Collins
9 years ago
Reply to  Happy MGTOW

Thanks. You are the proof in the Paleo/Primal pudding!

John Brownlee
John Brownlee
9 years ago
Reply to  Gary Collins

Dangit. I wish I had proof read that email a little bit better, because my waist is actually a 32 not a 36. One little typo totally changed the answer to my question.

Gary Collins
9 years ago
Reply to  John Brownlee

Hey John,

That does change it a bit. I would then say you have the nutrition side dialed in, but I would still recommend the exercise routine I outlined to build some additional strength. Since you have so much low to mid level cardio activity during the day, dial down what I recommended a bit. You will have to play with it until you find what works for you. Unless you lift things that would be considered in the heavy range for work on a daily basis I always recommend some sort of resistance training.

Henry
9 years ago
Reply to  Happy MGTOW

Wow. Gotta try Paleo diet then

jeff nw ohio
jeff nw ohio
9 years ago

I’m confused on what’s going to improve the next recovery when the basic fundamentals aren’t getting better. Wages are stagnant for a very large portion of our population and much of our expenditures are not even tied to commodity prices. Costs for taxes like property taxes and local taxes have gone up much more than most people couldn’t have imagined 15 to 20 years ago. Health insurance is anywhere from $400-600 for most family plans and coverage is poor on many plans. Those with student loans still have to pay em, don’t see how commodity prices will help that. I’ve priced cars and trucks, wow, $45000 for a half ton truck is not uncommon. I don’t see food prices down that much either. Those families in the bottom 40% of incomes have very hard time if they want to really get ahead, they’re like treading water all the time.

A huge problem is gonna areas where taxes are exorbitant and people are leaving decreasing the tax base. Don’t see too much cutting government staffing in those states making the burden ever worse. It’s a death spiral that’s gonna leave tons of bond holders holding the bag and tax payers being asked to bail out inefficient corrupt monopolies. It will be interesting to see how all this is going to plan out in the next 2-5 years, not 20 years from now.

lukkas
lukkas
9 years ago
Reply to  jeff nw ohio

Sucks to be one of those bondholders, but from what I can see some of these deathspiral areas are hitting bottom and looking for a legitimate way out.

The next decade or two are going to be very interesting indeed.

john
john
9 years ago

I’ve been looking for a new propane stove. The one Jack reccomended looks nice but how about this one with an oven. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0013LLSZG?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Is 7,500 BTU enough or the 17,000 on the one Jack recommended? I was hoping to use it for camping, cooking outside, and making beer outside (usually a 2 or 3 gallon boil).

jbritely
jbritely
9 years ago

Thank you. You convinced me. My wife likes to bake but I don’t think she even has a baking sheet small enough to fit in that oven.

Steven Harris
9 years ago

In the 1990’s a great deal of my early preparedness was focused around baking. I was going to bake bread as my staple, and biscuits. I got and USED that very same Coleman ‘oven’ that Jack just suggested. I’ve used it alot. It works pretty good. I was using it on top of an 8000 BTU kerosene burner. This was my emergency heater and my cook top surface, and I had around 100 gallons of kerosene in SEALED 5 gallon metal cans (not gas cans) in the garage. Its still there, all sealed up, still good, 20 years later. Kerosene was my stored fuel of choice at the time, it was widely available and I got it for about $1.35/gallon at the gas station, remember, this was the 1990’s.

At that time I was concerned with having a year of food and supplies, now I’m only concerned with a solid month or so.

my setup looks like this
http://amzn.to/1Pprrdb

My main fuel is now natural gas, that runs a generator, that runs an electric bread maker, actually, at least 2 or 3 at a time, to make 2lbs of bread in 58 minutes per bread maker. All of this is in my video “Bread from Gasoline”. where i make 16-2lb loaves of bread from 1 gallon of gasoline in a generator, now that’s a bargain. $2 in fuel, 32 pounds of fresh bread.

If you want to make bread this way, the Bread from Gasoline Video comes for free with the Battery Bank Video at http://www.Battery1234.com

Jack is spot on, what he outlined will give you great functionality and redundancy.

Steve

jbritely
jbritely
9 years ago
Reply to  Steven Harris

Thank you for the information. I’m hoping my next house will have natural gas or propane. And did buy a bread machine at a thrift store for $5 on your recommendation. It’s not my favorite bread but it has saved the day when we didn’t feel like going to the store.

Brent Eamer
Brent Eamer
9 years ago

Ahhh the 80’s. Jack that song reminds me of college in Cornwall Ontario. We use to drive across the border to Massena New York, to a place named Friar Tucks. Thursday night was Canadian Night, dollar at par. A beer was .75 cents