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Brandon
Brandon
12 years ago

I’ve actually been thinking about this whole Obamacare and Romney thing all day yesterday. I know living in CA it won’t really matter who I vote for…CA will go blue (sure, Reagan took it back in the 80’s, but he was also the CA governor previously, I don’t see it happening again…), but ever since the ruling yesterday, I’ve been considering throwing my weight behind Romney, just for the vain hope that he will get rid of Obamacare…but I just don’t know if I can pinch my nose hard enough when I check that box…

Eric Cantor has said that on the 11th, the house will vote to repeal Obamacare…guess I’ll have to wait and see how that goes and go from there…

John R
John R
12 years ago

For a mini bug out bag for situation as described, I have a H20 Mojave waist bag made by Outdoor Products. It carries 2 500ml water bottles and has a decent size pocket to carry the bare essentials
http://www.outdoorproducts.com/Products/H2O-Mojave/26

Mike
Mike
12 years ago

Jack, let me say first that it is exceedingly rare that I disagree with you. However, today I must. I think it is beneath you to impugn the character of a SC justice without some substantiating evidence.

I, too, would have preferred a different outcome. However, as you yourself said, it was legally correct.

Addotionally, as I understand it, the Obama administration did, in fact make the Taxation argument secondarily to the commerce clause. He did not pull it out of thin air.

Quote of the day for 6/28/12 IMHO:

“It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices.” -Chief Justice John Roberts

Mike
Mike
12 years ago

Wow. I said it because I think highly of you Jack. I’m sorry it if it seemed an attack, it wasn’t intended as such (I tried to make that clear with the preface about often agreeing but I guess that didn’t come across) I listen every single day, and the show means a great deal to my wife and I.
As to the issue at hand, I think we more closely agree than you realize, but whatever.

The reason I quoted Roberts was to make the same point about the lesser of evils vote. He’s basically saying, “keep voting for assholes, and you get assholes making law”

Its not everyday someone you kinda consider one of your heroes tells you to go screw
yourself! LOL
Still love the show.

Mike
Mike
12 years ago
Reply to  Mike

Nah I think next time ill keep it to myself.

Keep on keepin on, man

Mike
Mike
12 years ago

I’ve explained that what I said came from a complementary place. In order for me to think something is beneath you, I have to hold you in some sort of elevated regard to begin with, do I not?

Good grief, dude. Take the win.

Mike
Mike
12 years ago
Reply to  Mike

From your first response, it didn’t appear discussion was something you were interested in. That’s what happens when you tell people to screw off. Discourse ceases.

If you really want to hear why I used the terms I did, its because, frankly, we have zero evidence of Roberts’ motivation for going the way he did, other than the decision itself. Calling a man a traitor, IMHO, requires a little more evidence than that.

I know that many might feel that the decision itself is all the evidence they need, but frankly, history is replete with people who made bad decisions for what they thought were the right reasons. It is not completly evident to absolutely everyone that congress’ taxation power doesn’t extend to this (though I agree with you on that)

You’re about to tell me how completely wrong I am, and that’s fine.

Mike
Mike
12 years ago

Dude, why, after I’ve explained what I have, did you have to go with the “mutual respect being hard to comprehend” thing?
You tell me to screw, and now you have to be belittling.
This is why I should have walked away earlier. This “discussion” has been really disappointing.

Reply if you like, I wont be back.

Mike
Mike
12 years ago

I do apologize for offending you, Jack. You’re about the last person on the planet (that I don’t personally know) that I would intend to offend.

Andrew
Andrew
12 years ago

Mike, don’t tell people you are disappointed in them. That pisses people off.

Jack, work on your tendency to disagree vehemently. Mike’s is actually the majority view. I disagree, but unfortunately we are in the lonely position.

Now you guys can lambaste me 😉

Andrew
Andrew
12 years ago

Why am I an asshole?

Andrew
Andrew
12 years ago

I disagree. That’s all.

MG
MG
12 years ago
Reply to  Mike

Are you kidding me, Jack? Mike was wrong to say that you probably shouldn’t suggest that you know more about constitutional law than the Republican appointed Chief Justice of the Supreme Court? especially with no evidence or even a theory? Mike was way too polite with you, and you still stuck it to him with personal attacks. Very sad to witness….After your tirade of name calling & refusal to accept his repeated clarifications, it is now clear to me that, as you pointed out, HE was the one who was wrong to expect better of you.

MG
MG
12 years ago
Reply to  MG

Jack,
I never said “You called Mike names”. I said, “After your tirade of name calling”, eg. Chief Justice Roberts, and calling Andrew “asshole”. You told Andrew, who was just trying to play peacemaker, to “pound sand asshole”. You did tell Mike to “screw off” and were repeatedly rude to him even after he consistently expressed his devotion to you & your show, practically begging for forgiveness. Your argument, “the only name I called him was Mike” is a disingenuous technicality.

Mike never said you shouldn’t share your opinion which is what seemed to set you off. He clearly stated that it was “beneath you” to resort to name calling / character assassination with no evidence or theory, & I back him on that. If that’s what you talked about on your show all the time, your numbers would be very different. If I wanted that political crap all the time, I can turn on Fox News. Your show is better than that & we’re just trying to keep you sharp, focused & in good spirits, brother. I hope this helped clarify. Happy 4th to you & yours.

Andrew
Andrew
12 years ago
Reply to  MG

Jack,

I never said you should change your vehement disagreement. I said work on it. The reason is because that tendency is getting you to disagree with people when they actually aren’t disagreeing with you. I’ve experienced it with other people and several times with you. If you think that is who you are, then it is at odds with many of the things you’ve said recently. How exactly is you calling me an asshole different than people calling names on facebook, other than what I did was much lower stakes and trying to help?

Again, how am I an asshole?

Karen
Karen
12 years ago

The difference between Tyson chicken and all-natural chicken is not just the taste, but also the density. I used to purchase a lot of Tyson and Foster Farm. When my family decided to switch to Draper Valley chicken, the first thing I found was the meat is so much better tasting, and it took so much longer to cook the chicken.

We are now raising our own chicken for eggs, but we still eat out and once a while, still go to the store and buy one of their ready-cooked chicken (Tyson, most likely), but we can tell by the meat, and how they taste. The natural chicken make you full a lot quicker and you won’t eat as much.

My suggestions, try it and you will probably never go back.

Ashaldaron
12 years ago

@Jack
If you are looking for bulk natural (or at least naturaler) chicken, try to find a local butcher shop. I found a small shop thats on my way home from work called Dickman’s. It actually a small chain, but still pretty legit. Their meat was really delicous. The best part is, the kid working there doesn’t even know how good it is. I asked if they had pastured chicken, and they said no, but once I bought it, I could tell it was pastured. It was smaller, denser, and had actual flavor to it. They could totally be charging more for their chicken, but I still get it for about $.99 a pound. Never thought I would appreciate ignorance in my food.

Karen
Karen
12 years ago
Reply to  Karen

Jack,

Thank you for your respond. Have you try to use cooperative and buy in bulk before? That’s how I started with the “all natural” and found out how good the no hormone, no additive, humanely raise, free range meat actually are. That’s also the reason why I didn’t say anything about Organic certified by USDA. 🙂

What I did was to get to know our farmers, and ordered through the farm. On some of your shows, you talked about getting to know your farmers and know where your food is coming from, and that’s exactly what we have been doing. We would purchase lamb from Reister Farm in Washougal, WA. They will sell them for $9/lb at the Farmers Market, and if you go to Whole Food or New Season, $13-14/lb for rack of lamb.

Sometimes, as in the case of Draper Valley chicken, they are actually a cooperative of farmers. The farmers are all over Washington and Oregon and they would sell their products (chicken in this case) to the store under the umbrella name of Draper Valley. I know the farms are located as north as Mt Vernon to as south as Oregon City. Of course, I did research to see what kind of products they are providing, and found that they won’t feed the chicken antibiotic or preservatives. The meat of the chicken prove the point.

If you would like to know more about farms in your area, I can give you a website where you can search and maybe call up the farmers and visit them and see how they operate.

Darby Simpson
12 years ago
Reply to  Karen

@Ashaldaron-

I feel confident in telling you that I am 99.99% certain you are not getting pastured poultry from your local butcher at $0.99/lb. I have over $0.99/lb in our chicken running 500 at a time without including the feed! That’s just our flat fixed costs.

One of the largest pastured poultry operations in the world is in Indiana. The guy produces 60,000 birds per year. He has his own USDA processing plant, contracts out all his own grain from local grain farmers, etc. to cut costs. His price is $2.99/lb but the quality doesn’t hold a candle to ours. When you get that big, you loose something.

@Karen-

Generally speaking, pasture raised broilers take LESS time to cook, not more. They are more dense, that is true, but they also are generally only 2% “water” by weight. Mass processed birds will be 8-12% “fluid” by weight. This is the difference between butchering by hand, which is how almost all pastured poultry is done, and massive mechanical butchering. In that environment, birds are dunked into chlorinated water up to 40X. It takes time to cook off the excess moisture from that process. If you haven’t done so already, I would be asking some questions about the source of the birds you are getting. It’s possible you are getting a pastured bird that has been mechanically butchered, in which case you are eating fecal matter and chemicals as a result.

For anyone eating “pastured poultry” – ask questions. Know your farmer. You should darn well know him better than your doctor, CPA or attorney.

Ashaldaron
12 years ago
Reply to  Darby Simpson

Hey Darby,

Not sure where my wires got crossed. You are correct. I pay 2.99 a pound. The truth kind of slapped me in the face when I pulled out a package today and saw 2.99 on it. I must not pay enough attention.

Tim
Tim
12 years ago

Below is a link I found in reference to the growth and efficiency of hybrid poplar. Just thinking, that if you had 5-10 acres how else could you produce your own firewood. What other wood could you coppice and get a comparable growth rate? Just curious, I’ve got 5.5 acres today but I am not sure I would be willing to use 1/2 to an acre for firewood.

http://www.frysvillefarms.com/independence.htm

Travis Shute
Travis Shute
12 years ago

Well, I think it is absolutely unconstitutional to be fined(taxed) for not having healthcare. Although I do have to agree that some of the provisions in the Obamacare legislation have validity. Example, cannot be denied for a pre-existing condition or dropped for becoming sick. That is about the only thing I like. Wish they would have just made legislation that said insurance couldn’t do the above mentioned items. Instead of being forced to have health insurance. My mother-in-law was diagnosed 2 years ago with MS. Insurance company said they needed a re-evaluation of her insurance. They dropped her and now she can’t get ANY insurance because of this pre-existing condition. I think that is bullshit.

Andrew
Andrew
12 years ago
Reply to  Travis Shute

Travis Shute.

What you are talking about with your mother-in-law is called “rescission.”

Since that is defined as “unmaking of a contract” I don’t understand why the government doesn’t just have to do its job of enforcing contracts. That is to say, I don’t understand why doing that to you isn’t already illegal with no need for new laws of questionable constitutionality.

The no denial of pre-existing conditions is different. What I want is a more a la carte insurance system. That would address that problem. People with diabetes cost more, so why shouldn’t they pay more? It wouldn’t be completely unaffordable, just rationalizing the costs towards the expenses. The problem is that since we can’t buy insurance a la carte you get all or none, so the insurance companies are forced by law to accept or reject, so they try to reject. Now what we’ll get is one-size-fits all insurance and one-size-fits all behavioral “tax fines.” Everyone will be mandated to avoid behaviors associated with diabetes, for example, even though not everyone is at risk for diabetes.

awiggins
awiggins
12 years ago

Re: “Travis” Sorry about your mother-in-law. It is rare that a family is not touched by some bad fortune at one point or another.
An insurance policy is as contract – you are covered according to the provisions agreed upon in the contract. I f you agree to the contract, then you get what is due you according to the contract. If you do not then you can arbitrate or sue the issuer.
If you want pre-existing conditions covered, or protection against being “dropped”, you will probably have a difficult time finding such coverage on the free market for obvious reasons.
If you want the government to require insurance companies to cover pre-existing conditions and “not being dropped”, then insurance companies will have to raise their premiums to cover the additional costs.

I would think to cover this uninsurable pool, insurance premiums of all insureds would have to be raised. If (all) premiums are raised, fewer people will be able to afford health insurance because of the higher cost. Insurance premiums partly or wholly paid by companies, corporations, and for government workers will also increase. These higher costs will be passed on to the consumer and taxpayer. The greatest burden, as far as premiums go, would be on the generally healthy people in their 20’s and 30’s.
In a free economy, people are able to enter into an insurance pool and pay according to the risk that the members of the pool represent actuarily. If you require insurance companies to cover pre-existing conditions and not drop people, you are taking away peoples freedom to choose an insurance product without such provisions, and forcing every insured whose insurance does not presently cover this to pay a higher premium to cover the massive extra costs.
Not too long ago, in my mind, health care costs were tremendously lower, health care was tremendously less advanced, and people died alot earlier. Now, advances in medicine are profound, but the price tag is as well. Many people feel that they are entitled to medical care to extend their life and well being, whatever the cost to others. But in any case, there is a practical limit as to how much you can milk a cow.

Travis Shute
Travis Shute
12 years ago
Reply to  awiggins

I understand what your are saying. But she had her health insurance for about 16 years before she was diagnosed. Very rarely did she use it. Then she gets the diagnoses and within the same month of diagnoses.. dropped. That doesn’t seem right to me. I think after 16 years of premiums she shouldn’t have been dropped. She would have been fine paying a higher premium if they would have just raised it. Instead they dropped her, theoretically her health insurance for the rest of her life. Because when she tried to go to a new company– pre-existing condition.. sorry we can’t do it.

Travis Shute
Travis Shute
12 years ago
Reply to  Travis Shute

*theoretically ENDING her health insurance for the rest of her life

Travis Shute
Travis Shute
12 years ago

If only it could be this way.

Andrew
Andrew
12 years ago

“If only it could be this way.”

All I ask is that I can try to make it this way for myself. I had catastrophic coverage with a health savings account before a new job made more sense to go with their insurance.

It can be this way if we don’t make it illegal.

Andrew
Andrew
12 years ago

Oh, and by the way, RAND did a study that showed that Catastrophic+HSA did in fact reduce costs. And importantly, it did it at a small scale. I think that means that it reduced costs even with the current system that makes people pay more who don’t have the backing of an insurance company to strong-arm the doctors and hospitals.

That means that it works without having to revolutionize the entire system. Thus, there is no reason to make it harder on people like me, and every reason to make it easier to do what we want to do. We aren’t hurting anyone. Not that other people who rationally avoid our current fraud that we call insurance are really hurting anyone, but I’m already saving you money.

lisapaintergirl
lisapaintergirl
12 years ago
Reply to  Travis Shute

Travis- sounds like you need to sue your insurance company. Isn’t that the whole purpose of it- one pays when they don’t need the coverage, so it’s there when they do need it.

Mike in NJ
Mike in NJ
12 years ago

I think it should needs to be a provision to tax anyone who is “ok” with dropping a glock, but not a colt.

Mike in NJ
Mike in NJ
12 years ago

I think it should needs to be that I proof read before I click send.

Danny
Danny
12 years ago
Reply to  Mike in NJ

Your carry gun should be a tool and getting it scratched up a bit should not be a worry. Just as long as it does not affect the operation of the gun.

BTW Jack on the 1911. Have you ever run that 1911 thru a full blown 800-1000 round hand gun training class? Just wondering how it ran, I’ve heard 1911 not doing well. Could be a rumor. May be you already did a show where you discussed the class in detail but I don’t remember you ever doing a review or talking about any specific hand gun class you took.

Danny
Danny
12 years ago

First, we aren’t in the military here, this is civilian training. Not sure, about every .mil instructor being that much better than a civilian instructor though. ADs by senior NCO have happened more than you’d know. The reasoning behind not dropping your rifle is also different than from this specific .civ class.
Dropping it on the ground, not sure what the exact back ground of the caller was and the meaning behind it. Just dropping it does not make much sense but my gut says the instructor must have had a reason for it.

I don’t think you understood where I was going though. There are too many people out there who are overly worried about their carry gun getting any type of damage on it. I have seen guys unwilling to drop a mag on the ground during a reload in a training class. Didn’t want mud or scratches on it. Folks not wanting to rack their slides by the rear sight on their belts or the heels of their boots etc. Duct tape on the shell deflector so the paint does not get dinged up…

Just out of curiosity, what hand gun or rifle classes have you taken? Besides the .mil training of course. I know recommend Yeager and your one sponsor but which classes have you taken. Did you ever do a review podcast that I missed may be? There are so many podcasts.

Charlie
Charlie
12 years ago

The company that has you drop your weapon on the ground is Tactical Response. I know because I took their Fighting Pistol class. I dissagree with the merits of dropping your pistol. Doesnt make a whole lot of sense to me. In regards to the ciriculum they teach, its ok but there are much better programs out there. Their lecture was outstanding, but the shooting portion was sub par IMHO. My expirences com from 12 years military and 8 civilian classes from well known companies. YMMV

Sarah @ The Claiming Liberty Blog

Jack, the whole cover crop/mulching question is so timely for me. This year, a neighbor plowed our first garden spot. Now, it looks like it was planted by a blind person and 3 kids who’ve never gardened before (because it was :D), but we’re proud of it nonetheless. We’re suffering a terrible drought here in central IN (.01″ of rain in my zip code so far in June), but I have tomato and pepper plants with fruit set. I also have some spaghetti squash, cukes, and watermelon that might do something yet. I’m watering each plant by hand, but since I didn’t put anything on top of the plowed spots that didn’t have anything planted, I have a LOT of grass. My husband jokes that he can’t tell the difference betweent he lawn and the garden. (That’s because he hadn’t gotten close enough to see that there are actually plants there!)

This week, I took some of the chickens’ pine chips out to the garden and I mulched everything except the spaghetti squash. I still have a lot of bare garden (with grass, of course.) Should I try some sort of cover crop for the rest of the garden and then whack it all down in the fall and cover with mulch/tarp/something in the winter? With this drought, I’m just not sure what to do, but since I’m only hand watering my plants, the grass hasn’t TOTALLY taken over (although it’s decently grown in the garden area.)

I’m curious to see what you and others think. I’m a total newb with this, so I’m pretty clueless.

Dan Hunter
Dan Hunter
12 years ago

The supreme court just fired up the Tea Party.A sleeping giant was just woke back up.

Dene
12 years ago

Thanks for your words on Asperger’s.

outburst402
outburst402
12 years ago

Jack,
Comment about the free natural gas. I was in the hospital once and spoke with an IN farmer who was visiting family. We started talking and he mentioned that he got free natural gas. Seems decades ago oil an oil company did test drills looking for oil. As a “reward” or payment for letting the test drills, several homes in the area got free natural gas. It comes from reserves under the homes, not from a pipeline. He said that there is not enough pressure to run his grain bin dryers, but he can use it for everything in his home. My understanding is that commercial wells were never developed in his area. I would think that the natural gas would probably last a lifetime. If not you just have to make some minor modifications to your appliances and get propane.

Darby Simpson
12 years ago
Reply to  outburst402

Any idea what part of Indiana he lived in?

Jvawt
Jvawt
12 years ago
Reply to  Darby Simpson

Darby,
I am from SE Indiana, I know many people that have private gas wells. It has nothing to do the gas companies. The gas pockets have always been there. Some of these wells have been in use for 50 years or more. You can still have “private wells” drilled.

Sarah @ The Claiming Liberty Blog
Reply to  outburst402

My parents (also Hoosiers) were looking at a business property that had “free” natural gas. They would have had to add the “well” to retrieve it, but the NG was there for the taking. Apparently there are a lot of places in this country where NG is available for the taking.

On a slightly different note, I vaguely recall seeing a news piece about a family in CO whose drinking water well was so contaminated with methane that their shower “water” could be set alight with a flame. IIRC, nobody had done anything to contaminate the well. It just so happened there was a lot of NG in that part of the ground. It unfortunately made their house pretty useless though because the water well was unusable.

lisapaintergirl
lisapaintergirl
12 years ago

At my grandmother’s house in Farmercity, IL – the water from the faucet could be set on fire with a match. It was a pretty cool trick for out-of -towners, but everyone in town used and drank the water like normal.

hillhag
hillhag
12 years ago

I could be wrong in my opinion, but following the hostile corporate take-overs of the 80’s we saw mega corporations, and global corporations emerge which may have had connections to other corporations through subsidiaries making it difficult to follow who owned what. I wish I could see a mega chart of who sits on which boards and who are the principals. I watched the changes in several areas of consumption that made me suspect that maybe the same corporations owned seed companies, chemical companies, medical companies, pharmaceutical companies, insurance companies, mega banks, and each one could feed another with customers. That was about when I became aware of HMO’s, etc. I am convinced that this empire is now run by corporate lobbyists such as write legislation; and, politicians are just branded commodities, as we are all commodities. We are sold bills of goods and reduced to consumption. Would I be further afield to guess that if we, the consumers were to consume less and produce more, we could affect Wall Street in a serious way? Of course, many of the laws are made to reduce our ability to produce unless we are disobedient, it seems.

doug
12 years ago

OMG, Jack, I listen to you talk about Asperger’s and I thought I recognized pieces of that in me so I……researched it. I’m convinced I was born with, too. And it seems to be genetic. I have a cousin who is a physics PhD but generally socially inept. He can miss a joke. His sister, too, was valedictorian (was very beautiful in her day) but is severely socially handicapped today. Everybody thinks she’s crazy. I have a different have cousin who would get fixated on spreading mustard on bread for a sandwich. We both hung out bow hunting together. He kept it up and is now a damn good bower selling his carbon fiber longbows all around the world. Growing up I daydreamed a lot and it got in the way of my being able to get good grades but I was good a math and art. I was interested in wildlife. People are amazed at my wildlife drawings, “How in the hell did you do that?” I don’t know I just can. But I seldom draw. I burn myself out when I do it. I get so focused on what I’m doing and get so detailed that I avoild starting a new drawing. I also have an interest in fitness and nutrition. Since you put me onto Paleo, and it clicked, I can spend hours focused on researching it to trying and make all the associative connections related to health and autoimmune issues. I drive my wife (and others) nutz wanting to talk to them about the health implication related to this nutritional way of eating. I’m like, if cutting grains/gluten out of the diet could help with avoiding autoimmune diseases why wouldn’t they want to? I want to impart what I’ve learned that I think is useful to them.
anyway, thanks Jack

txmom
txmom
12 years ago
Reply to  doug
doug
doug
12 years ago
Reply to  txmom

Yeah, txmom, I’ve seen that guy on the Discovery channel. I don’t have a memory anything like that for drawing out of my mind but get really focused as putting in detail and trying to make the drawing appear 3D. I have a drawing of an elephant that people have told me it looks like it’s coming out of the paper. I could go in to detail 😉 about how I do that but I won’t and would need to show how anyway.

I can pass as….normal…for the most part among friends except I can feel compelled to go into detail telling people about something I know would be useful for them (paleo diet, for example). Here’s two people with AS. I’m more like the first guy at his age. The symptoms have and don’t apply to me is pretty much the same as him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tVEEfOGQhs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mMLSFVuZQE

rex
rex
12 years ago

Just a thought. I can’t picture a cashless society unless we are all on a global currency first. I would think foreign paper money could still be used as a means of exchange. How would they prevent that?

Andrew
Andrew
12 years ago

Here is the other side. 1. You are right that Roberts just hamstrung the appointing conservative justices trump card. 2. Romney can’t really run on repealing the healthcare law because (a) noone will believe him because he is a known issue flip-flopper and (b) since his Romney-care was partly the inspiration for Obamacare he can’t run on repealing it without cementing in peoples’ minds that it is just another flip flop or that he’ll change tune after being elected.

Gump
Gump
12 years ago

Many people prefer popular wood for COOK STOVES and I would assume outdoor cooking. Cooking fast and hot has advantages sometimes.

Jimmie
Jimmie
12 years ago

The Supreme Court erred when they allowed the opening arguments that the Healthcare law was a tax law. It is not lawful for a tax lawsuit to be tried before the taxes from that law are applied. When Roberts decided it was a tax law the case should’ve been dismissed and sent back to congress.

His decision dismantled the backstop when he turned the Supreme Court into a rubber stamp of the administration.

Some of the most liberal, destructive & unconstitutional decisions were made by Republican presidents. Blackwell & Wade v.s. Roe for one.

SusanG
SusanG
12 years ago

Jack, I have to respectfully disagree that Roberts’ action killed the silver bullet theory for voting Republican. It wounded it, but it is not dead. If Obama, or any other Democrat, is elected president, there is zero chance that he or she will nominate a constitutional conservative to the Supreme Court. With a Republican president, the odds are at least 50-50. Thomas (my favorite), Scalia, and Alito were not nominated by Democrats. So, I think the argument that we are better off with a Republican president nominating the next new Supreme Court justices still applies.

SusanG
SusanG
12 years ago

You’ve got me there … but I am going with the blind hog theory (even a blind hog can find an acorn once in a while), and still contend that with Obama there is zero chance of a constitutional judge while with Romney the chance is non-zero, even if 50-50 is optimistic.

CHopper
CHopper
12 years ago

Amen! “Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.” Kinda reminds me of the belief that a limited government is a realistic solution. Now Anarchy?, that has true potential!

SusanG
SusanG
12 years ago
Reply to  SusanG

Sticking my neck out here one last time on this topic, it seems that Reagan was 1 for 3 in appointing reliably conservative justices, H.W. Bush was 50-50 (“read my lips” Bush was the one who appointed Thomas) and W. Bush is 50-50 so far. This is an interesting article on this problem: http://www.aei.org/article/politics-and-public-opinion/executive/why-are-republicans-so-awful-at-picking-supreme-court-justices/. That Romney bothers to run as a Republican AND that I don’t see him being any more of a RINO than H.W. Bush, are what I base my opinion on that he might make better Supreme Court appointments than Obama, not on anything in his record.

Jimmie
Jimmie
12 years ago

Would you be in favor of amending the constitution so that congress cannot collect taxes from individuals?

Or that taxes cannot be based on conditions?

Shasta Ron
Shasta Ron
12 years ago
Reply to  Jimmie

Not speaking for Jack but myself I want a congress to FOLLOW the constitution like the forefathers intended it to be!

Not the assclowns that are in it now screwing with it, Making changes, and turning this once Awesome country (Powerhouse) of ours into something laughable in other countries…..

Shasta Ron
Shasta Ron
12 years ago

I’m with Jack on this one. Roberts Fk’d this one up big time.

I did not even expected this. I though it would be thrown out. Now I have to be FORCED to pay. This is Communism. We are in deep shit for sure!

All I’m gonna do now is sit back quietly, prep, and wait for the revolution……

Jimmie
Jimmie
12 years ago

Romney will use the “repeal” sentiment to his advantage but he has already said that there are a lot of good things in the ObamaTax (he will not call it that, he calls it a penalty as does Obama) that should be kept.

Jimmie
Jimmie
12 years ago

Accepting the notion that Obama, Bush, Romney are surrogates of a world order organization and that they have a plan that uses government to accomplish their plan, are we seek to live our lives without government interference… are we not destining ourselves to subservience to those who gain the power to control via government, media? How can we, without a plan, attain or remain in freedom against those who have a plan to enslave?

Jimmie
Jimmie
12 years ago

Agreed. But isn’t it part of Their Plan for the system to collapse and that they have a system (communist, whatever) to replace it? Sure we prep, we have no fantasy that we can, or should prevent a collapse, but do we have something to put in place of the collapsed system that would counter Their Plan? I would suggest starting all over with a new system of government that would start with the Declaration of Independence, The Constitution, and review, accept some and discard some of the Bill of Rights. And finally bulldoze Washington D.C.

CHopper
CHopper
12 years ago

@Jimmie
And your new Gmen will start the process of enslaving us all over again, and again, and again. It’s what governments do.
It’s ironic really, governments are just groups of people banding together to coerce other people to do what they would not do on their own. Our government has the silly tradition of some of the people trading places periodically. Then they all blame the other side for the atrocities committed in the name of the “common good”.

I just want to be left alone…
Agorism, Voluntarism, and Anarchy are the logical end of the libertarian thought process.

Jimmie
Jimmie
12 years ago

Chopper, I agree. It seems hopeless. Our constitution was written by men of genius who knew the nature of man was to control and those rascals have indeed used that document to reverse it’s intention. The truth is, especially after this Roberts’ ruling, I’m scared. Angry.

correction: I meant to say review the constitutional amendments, not the Bill of Rights.

Agorculture
Agorculture
12 years ago

Doug- that is interesting. I am starting to wonder if I have Asperger’s as well. I took a personality test last month that notes some of the key traits. My father is a physics PhD, an actual rocket scientist. Growing up, I identified with Mr. Spock. I have also recently become interested in health and nutrition (since discovering real foods and Paleo) and am driving others crazy with it. I “forced” my wife to go gluten-free as I see associations with all sorts of issues, later to find it confirmed by cutting-edge research.

I also can’t remember names, but the caller who wanted to boost his brainpower should check out the Bulletproof Executive, Dave Asprey. He also has Asperger’s and developed a version of the Paleo diet that excludes mycotoxins. He should be on this show for his biohacks! Also try Aniracetam . taken with with plenty of choline. It’s a game changer!

Regarding safety nets, the Foundation for Economic Education has excellent information on the numerous private voluntary safety nets and how they functioned before the government destroyed them http://www.thefreemanonline.org/features/friendly-societies-voluntary-social-security-and-more/

Travis- I am sorry about your mother-in-law. What the insurance company did is wrong. Lawyer up! Also, check out Dr. Terry Wahls TED Talk on how she cured and reversed MS on a Paleo diet. It is inspirational and applicable to curing many conditions, especially preventing them.

Chopper- Right on!

doug
12 years ago
Reply to  Agorculture

Yeah, true to AS I’ve been digging into learning about AS. I’m convinced I have it. I now see it as something that puts a lot into perspective, and consequently I see it as both a blessing and a curse. They say people with AS have a kind of mind blindness to social ques. That maybe in that I can annoy others with my intense interests, like paleo or the economy. What I want to…inform…others about, though, stuff that I know is useful to making their lives better, like paleo. Thanks for the info on Dave Asprey. Dito on Wahls.
Having AS, for me, is like being in a movie theater and happening to look up at the ceiling and thinking I’m seeing a wisp of smoke. Something just grabbed my attention so I keep looking up and watching to see if what I’m seeing is real or my imagination. Once I convince myself the smoke is real and getting heavier I feel compelled to inform those around me. But instead of getting a positive response I get shhhh we’re watching the movie. Kind of like.
Me: “No really, just look up.”
Them: “Shut up leave us alone, stop distracting us, we don’t want to hear about your shit.”
And others wonder why people with AS can have a tendency towards frustration. It’s as if you are trying to communicate with others and they are the ones suffering from brain fog. It’s like trying to wake up a teenager, that needs to be awaken, and they get all pissy about it.
You’d at least think with the success I’ve had investing in oil and gold etfs since 2007 (and having been cashed out of the market, except for gold, when Sep 08 crash hit) that maybe they’d begin to listen to me. A couple of friends do but not my family business partners. With this have to deal with normal people who to Aspies seemingly have brain fog I give you Dr Michael Burry giving a speech at the 2012 UCLA’s economics graduation. He talks about foreseeing the housing collapse, the money he made from shorting the housing market and how he got treated by the government and FBI for simply asking the questions, in a NYT op-ed, of how it was that he saw it coming but the Fed, Congress, and President did not.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CLhqjOzoyE

doug
12 years ago
Reply to  Agorculture

oh BTW Dr Burry has Asperger’s Syndrom