Episode-1595- Listener Calls for 6-22-15 — 30 Comments

  1. There’s something weird happening with the audio in a couple places, eg, 39:36. Just a heads up.

  2. I HAVENT LISTENED TO THE SHOW YET. However I checked out the link about the robot grocery store. In Memphis we have had a “robot” gas station with convenience store that looks almost just like the picture in the article for about 10+ years. Not sure if it has survived as I’m not in that area very often anymore.

  3. OSHA stands for “Organization Saving Helpless Assholes”

    Love it! I take it you had some dealings with OSHA prior to podcasting full time that must’ve been pretty similar to my experience.

  4. Referring to grocery stores being automated it’s already here. Kroger has been doing the shopping cart thing for a while and now just introduced shopping online. You can shop online and pick a date and time of pickup and they will have your items ready for you. If the link below doesn’t work check out and poke around you’ll quickly find it.

  5. When will construction of houses be done with robots so that carpenters are less in demand ? I was just thinking this today as I walked past a construction site.

    Robots could also potentially harvest crops, tap maple syrup trees and various types of things of that nature perhaps some day.

    Robot mechanics could fix cars

    • When will robots take over construction? I think there are two answers to that: “never” and “a long time ago”. Construction sites are too complex, there is too much “fitting stuff together” for machines to handle it. Even when you bulldoze a lot flat and use identical blueprints, stuff doesn’t settle the same. Robots need simpler environments, like a factory. Hence, the other answer. I would be surprised if robots are not already being used in the manufactured home industry. When every single unit can be turned out exactly identical, robots are a big advantage.

  6. I am a software developer, I am not sure making any kind of career change makes much sense for me even if I really wanted to ..

    • In Shop Class as Soulcraft, Matthew Crawford explains why it’ll be a long time before the ‘craftwork’ disciplines are taken over by automation. Basically, computers don’t think like people do and can’t solve problems in the same way. That we’ve started to think about people not being ‘as smart as’ computers has been a nifty sleight of hand. As it pertains to his motorcycle repair business, a computer might be able to detect and diagnose a problem, but it’s a lot like our medical industry these days.. diagnose and repair, diagnose and repair, diagnose and repair for single issues, but a complete lack of looking at the person as a whole. A human can do that with a motorcycle, but a computer can’t.

      The argument isn’t without flaws, but the bottom-line, as he puts it, is if you’re in a ‘rules-based’ occupation (ahem, like me), watch out….

    • I have a lengthy serious of posts in the tin foil section on why artificial intelligence is over hyped in many ways including various warning by Stephen Hawking. I have a some basic understandings of complexity theory which is a mathematical area of computer science and the one graduate level class I took was on that topic.

      As far as something like construction however, I am not well aware of all the problems involved and it seems a bit different and not really the same as what is considered AI so I would need to think about that some more and look into it.

    • Regarding artificial intelligence, I recently listened to a DARPA representative on current work in artificially enhancing the brain with electronics. It’s not Skynet, but its weird enough.

      Dr. Justin Sanchez and DARPA… on Triangulation hosted by Leo LaPorte. Here is the link below to video and audio versions. You can also get it on your Roku from the TWIT Network.

      Alex Shrugged

  7. On the makeup of the expert council.. I think it’s pretty comprehensive as it is. About the only gap I can think of would be someone to answer questions about vehicles and vehicle repair (including small engines). This thought came to mind when I asked myself the question: “Is it ok to idle a gas engine for a long time when your powering the house from a car?” I imagine Steven knows the answer, but just made me think of all the little car questions I come up with that would be fun to have answered by an expert.

    • I thought the same thing when I heard it at first, and then I realized that there are so many ways he could go with it if he wants to and still be true to what the Survival Podcast is all about. Car repair is a good example, but so is herbal medicine, or a soil scientist. I personally would’ve never thought of military surplus, and yet, I like the Tim Glance segment.
      I have faith in Jack, I may not agree with him 100% of the time, on everything he says, but he makes pretty good decisions.

  8. Jack, You cheated yourself out of 100 episodes. I think you said this was episode 1495.

  9. Just started the show. Yep, Jack cheated himself out of 100 shows. Does that mean we get an extra 100 tomorrow?

  10. Regarding the 6th extinction and the “missing rivets on an airplane wing” analogy, if the missing rivets were like extinct species then missing rivets would be replaced by other rivets that would grow and adapt to fill the gaps. If nature didn’t work that way, we wouldn’t have things like lions, cows and grass… or Charles Darwin.

    In the science series “Walking with Dinosaurs” (available on Netflix) take notice that there is no grass. The series producers mixed real images with fake dinosaurs but their biggest problem in filming this series was finding large natural areas with no grass.

    Now imagine dinosaur scientists who noticed the first grasses. “Oh no! Our dinosaur world is being destroyed!”

    Yes. Probably. The world will be different with grass, but imagine what the world would be like today without grass?

    No cereals such as rice, wheat, oats, barley, etc

    No sugarcane, corn or bamboo.

    No beer.

    Death to dinosaurs.

    We can’t fight the cycle. All we can do is to lessen the disaster and make the transition easier for us, as human beings, to adapt. Those who refuse to adapt have agreed that their time has passed. They will linger for a while, but nothing will be left of them in time.

    Our biggest mistake in society (and we make it over and over again) is refusing to acknowledge cycles of birth, growth, death and rebirth in a different form. Nothing stays the same although (happily) some things keep returning like integrity, trust, community and love and (unhappily) conflict, avarous and lack. They all serve their purposes.

    The people thought that King Canute was wondrous and powerful. To disabuse the people of this notion, he placed his throne on the beach and sat there, daring the tide to rise and disrupt the king’s repose. But the tide came in regardless of where his royal backside reposed.

    The King remarked, “‘Let all men know how empty and worthless is the power of kings, for there is none worthy of the name, but He whom heaven, earth, and sea obey by eternal laws.”

    It is OK to build ships to ride the tides, or to build a wall to hold it back, but when we suggest that we can lower the tides with the power of our personality, we are saying that we are the gods we are looking for. Is there any clearer warning than that?

    A little humility is always in order.

  11. I just finished reading the book “The Fourth Turning.” Fabulous. It was written in the 1990s predicting what would happen sometime between 2005 and 2010. They were a little off. It happened on 9-11-2001 but what they predicted thereafter is right on! It is helpful in planning one’s transition from this “Fourth Turning” into the next “First Turning.”

    I can’t think of any plan more sensible than what Jack outlined in this episode to make that transition from chaos to rebuilding. I don’t know if he read this book but Jack is in the zone.

  12. the single biggest problem with a local exchange currency is the fact that our way of life our society that is Exchange an international to corporations none of us stand on the resources that are available from the earth locally

  13. I ordered 4 Rogue Hoes for Elisha’s Spring Farm back in April. The best deal I found was at Search for “rogue.” They have them for $53.95 each, with options for 40″, 48″ and 54″ wood handles. Most people prefer the 54″ handles, though some of the vertically challenged like the 48″. We found that only kids like the 40″. Shipping was very reasonable at $23 for all 4.

  14. I know one job that the robot store would eliminate, the task of walking up and down the aisles to get the stuff. That job is currently done for free by the buyer. I heard in a podcast (so it must be true) that many years ago before the modern supermarket customers didn’t get their own stuff, there was a counter near the door and you told the store staff what you wanted and they went and got it for you while you waited at the counter. So this could be described as a return to an older way of shopping, at least for the buyer.

    A book on my list to read is called “Shadow Work: The Unpaid, Unseen Jobs That Fill Your Day” and it describes this kind of thing.

    • Watch “Little House on the Prairie” and see what happens when people go into the Olsen’s store.

      • Did you check out jack? Order online and pickup from your local store. Also put stuff in your cart and quickly pay as you walk out.

  15. I saw vending machine style grocery stores in the Netherlands a few years ago. Sounds exactly like what news segment described.

  16. Just wanted to throw it our there. The Rouge hoe is better known as a McLoed.
    Very common tool in the fire industry. Just wanted to say this because it will give people more shopping options.