Episode-1348- Listener Calls for 5-16-14 — 29 Comments

  1. Topic Time Markers

    [4:14] The Year 1348*
    [6:52] How much of the holocaust had its origins in the US*
    [17:05] Some more updates about PermaEthos – we have some answers to questions
    [22:45] Preventing the spread of Autumn Olive and other “problem” plants
    [30:53] Why pauses, fun, mini vacations are important and how they might save your life
    [41:40] Steven Harris stills and solar power, ( and
    [56:45] Are broody chickens egg eaters
    [1:00:16] Permaculture design for fire prevention
    [1:06:04] John Pugliano on the current “market correction”
    [1:11:31] When I think money will begin to exit the “blue chips”
    [1:15:38] Using “worm juice” as fertilizer and magnifying its effects with teas/sprays/etc
    [1:23:05] Are police shooting more dogs than in the past, what does it all mean
    [1:33:00] Answering questions about hugulkultur*
    [1:40:44] Planting around walnuts, pecans, etc. and dealing with Bermuda Grass
    [1:50:26] Can you make a food forest in containers, maybe, who is going to do it first?

    * – Added by me

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  2. On the Jews, I’m reading an interesting book… Renegade History of the United States by Thaddeus Russell. Jews, Irish, and Italians were all thought to be below that of black individuals. Many places wanted black workers over Irish workers or reserved the dangerous jobs for the Irish. It’s interesting because today racist is normally directed towards black. It’s an interesting view that racism was really you don’t have the Puritan beliefs that other Americans valued. He also has a series of with Brent on School Sucks podcast, where he really explains this out.

    The serialization theory is interesting. If you listen to Stephan’s latest opinion, maybe yours too, when the government starts to run out of money they will say look at all these welfare people. I wonder if that will come up again.

    • Funny you should mention the lowly status of the Irish in early America. The comedy, “Blazing Saddles” skewers many stereotypes mostly focusing on the color of one’s skin, but as the movie winds up, the mayor of Rock Ridge welcomes all minorities to the town in love and tolerance. Then the mayor shouts, “But we don’t want the Irish!” 🙂

  3. Isn’t opportunity the biggest ecological/evolutionary driver? History may not repeat but it does rhyme.
    I believe a permaculture pamphlet from Bill Mollison was about fire mitigation. Cottonwood and willow surely won’t ignite readily.

  4. The patio food forest has great potential. I have a lot of land in zone 7b but I can think of many things that are marginal at best here. I’m also thinking about relocating to zone 4 where a “mobile” food forest would be awesome to extend my possible varieties.

  5. Marijuana is illegal by federal law and more and more states are legalizing it anyway, so I don’t see it being that hard to legalize home distillation.
    I do understand the the pot thing is under medical use in most states so there might be a road block there, but I think comes down to how many people want to legalize it and how much money they can raise to lobby the state to get a bill passed

  6. For some reason Jack talking about fire control brought to mind that episode of MacGyver based on Leiningen Versus the Ants…

  7. If you’re talking planting a garden in containers not just trees, bushes and shrubs, Dave Canterbury has a few vids on his YouTube Channel where he planted his entire spring garden in 5 gallon buckets, he made the case if the shit hit the fan and you had to move you could take your garden with you and he got a great crop, also keep in mind it was his first attempt at it and it worked great!

  8. Hi Jack,

    RE: Permaculture and fire design. I live in the probably the worst bush fire “wild fire” area on the planet, being south eastern Australia. We have really bad bushfires across the state of Victoria every Summer without fail. David Holmgren, co-originator of the Permaculture concept lives about 40km away from me and he had done extensive work on designing for bushfire prevention, inlcuding his own book called “The Flywire House” which is one of several books available through his website that deals with the topic of bushfires. David Holmgren’s webstore .

    As for trees protecting properties or houses from fires, this is absolutely true. Many homes have been saved in Australia from selecting tree species that do not burn easily and planting them in the path of fires. This is a critical method for protecting lives and properties in fire prone areas.

  9. Wanting to take time off, society wants to make you feel like it’s lazy .. it’s not part of the work ethic. I like to take time off, but I don’t watch TV and shopping or tourism seems to not be the same thing ..

    Going off in the woods seems like the way to get away .. Even if you do it and it rains and you feel lonely or unsatisfied … when you get back home you realize that whole pilgrimage did you more good than anything.

    Conservatives are heavy on the work ethic, but there’s alot less in scripture on that than you might realize and the importance of the sabbath as well as jubilee (sabbath) year (every 7 years) are important.
    That’s why I am never bothered if there is some blue law that says stores should stay closed on Sunday etc.

    Swami Kriyananda points out .. some people have alot less money but they have richer lives.

    Thanks to Amy I could find different parts of the podcast without much forwarding/rewinding

    • FYI… from a Jewish perspective a Jubilee year is every 50 years. (The year after 7 shimita years or one year after 49 years.) I think you were referring to the shimita year.

      In order to have one year of rest for the fields every seven years, the 6th year must produce THREE YEARS OF YIELD: 1 year of yield for consumption during the year of rest, 1 year of yield to plant when the rest is over and 1 year of yield while the new crop grows.

      That would take a miracle or one HECK of a lot of work in the sixth year. Eh?

      It’s sort of like being a mechanic who rebuilds engines but can find no time for a day off. Then his wife says, “Why don’t you rebuild THREE engines on Friday and take the weekend off?” 🙂

  10. Jack, you were talking about sterilization in our history, which reminded me of a trip I took with my children to Cherokee, N.C. where a Cherokee man explained that the native population was small compared to the past because their people had been forcefully sterilized, but I forgot what time period he was talking about.

  11. You are obi-wan Spirko. I took Friday off yesterday, gardened, made a cinder block raised bed and now , Saturday morning, I’m making Lobster Bisque, went down to the warf yesterday morning and got four nice fresh lobsters. This is our long Victoria day weekend and the weather’s fine.

  12. In Geoff Lawton’s online permaculture design course, he does briefly mention fire when he talks about knowing where the wind enters your property. I have to go back and listen, but I believe he said if you can put a pond between your house and where the wind enters the property, you can help mitigate the danger of an approaching fire.

  13. Jack, I had to do a 2nd take, when you said “Something, something, lousy with them”
    That is a Canadian east coast phrase, out here, its with foxes “PEI is lousy with them”

    Never heard anyone outside of Atlantic Canada say that before

    • Real common in the Coal Region of PA.

      Such as, “Have yous guys been up ta black crik lately, that place is lousy with brownies the state must of stocked the hell out of them there. Ain’t?”

      Brownies are brown trout, FWIW.

      And yes we use ain’t as a stand alone question at the end of a sentance, sort of like saying “right?”.

      In Western PA they would say mostly the same but yous would be yinz.

    • I’m originally from Cornwall Ontario, back in the sixties and seventies it was all mill town, textiles, pulp paper, we had relatives in Reading and Scranton, PA, we use to go down every year when I was a kid. My aunt use to say warsh. So ya, language is fascinating. Thanks for the chuckle…

      • That’s funny down here in this part of East Texas we say Warsh too LOL even call it Warshington DC LOL

  14. Hi Jack loved your thought,s on dogs.A long time friend of mine that is in the LEO community was talking about the same topic and i asked him why do the police hate some dogs so much.He told me that at one time people were training dogs to attack police officers which is very wrong and he said that in their training that they were almost to the point of being brain washed to hate certain type,s of breed,s.I am glad that at least this person of topic is a bulldog and german shepard owner and dog lover in general and has the common sense to know better than shoot first and ask questions later.

  15. Another thought anyone that trains a dog to attack somebode because of who the are is animal cruelty.

  16. This whole building a perma farm is brilliant. Rebuilding ag one chunk a land at a time. The future is bright with this one. Very pioneering. Repioneering pioneered land? Bitchin either way.

  17. Regarding making compost tea, best thing I’ve found is the small temporary blue swimming pool from big box mart w inflatable ring at top. Put a poly trash can suspended over the middle w holes in the side. Load burlap bag w compost and pipe the pump up to the top. Add your humates, molasses, seaweed, etc and overnight you’ll have hundreds of gallons of aerated compost leachate to hyper-fortify your system w a collapsible low cost method that works pretty well for aquaculture as well. Sabino Cortez in Erath county TX adapted the compost vortex from the dairy industry. Pretty interesting story behind it.

  18. Bermuda grass, ahhh, America’s suburban weed. I don’t mind weeds, but Bermuda will survive a cow’s four stomachs and then a compost pile. I avoid it like the plague.

  19. Last year I bought blueberries planted them into 5 gallon buckets piled compost around the buckets during the winter. This year they are looking nice and I just got them moved out to the land I just bought this weekend. They will get to go into their permanent homes next weekend.

  20. I really liked the idea of flooding the swales as a fire break. I think densely planting succulents aloe, moringa and agave etc, upslope of the swales in the fire sector might enhance the effect.

  21. Sorry Jack, but we’re already there, and not even conditional on accepting welfare.

    Expect this to gain traction over time.

    Keep in mind that often child support payments are ordered based off of an imputed amount the father “should” be making, rather than off of the expense of raising a child (say, half the amount that the state pays foster parents), or what the father is actually making (which may be $0 a month if he lost his job due to layoffs).

    • Meaningless and not what I am talking about. Totally unenforceable and no penalty for failure to comply.

  22. hey jack,
    great show as usual. I am doing a backyard semi-food-forest [uh, 20 X 13 cement lot] all in containers, with 2 dwarf apple trees, peach tree, multiple raspberry, black berry, gojiberry, grape, blueberry, hops, strawberry, plus annuals, flowers, ivy, etc, for good measure. i’ll send pictures.. This will be 3rd summer, and still planting. Now some containers are 6 feet X 1.5 X 1.5 made of brick, but we couldn’t go through the cement because the dirt is probably polluted [former factory] and not sure if ok to pull up cement… in Brooklyn.

  23. Jack you were probably 90% correct in regards to termites. I’ve been in the pest industry for over 15 years & I would not be concerned with termites in a hoogal (sp).

    Your statements about them being everywhere is also pretty dead on for us in the south. I’m in northwest Arkansas and some guesstimates are that there’s 10-12 termite colonies PER ACRE! They are here & unless you live in Alaska, you have them all around your property, your just unaware.

    Your statements about them being beneficial is also spot on. Very productive & understanding how they work I began to wonder if they’re activity in a hoogal would not be a positive thing.

    The only thing I heard wrong was the buried wood. The moisture plus the wood are very attractive. In fact years ago I was involved in the early attempts at a termite bait station. The process involved using untreated wood in a station in the ground. And it didn’t take long, usually days to a week to get a hit on them. There were some limitations to the efficacy of termite bait, but I can guarantee wood in the earth almost always had immediate hits.