Episode-1876- Listener Calls for 9-22-16 — 20 Comments

  1. Jack,

    I’m taking the same certification with Dr. Garrett, and I’m not convinced that a trees flare being covered is a problem. Walk into the woods and every tree has the flare covered with accumulated compost and soil.

    It doesn’t pass the smell test.

    • Yea it really does, Adams comment is dead on with an understanding of the difference between humus and soil.

  2. There is a big difference between root flares covered by forest debris and buried in packed soil do to planting too deep. Debris still allows the flare to expand and not girdle the tree. This is not a new idea…been talked about in landscape industry for 20 years. I’ve seen many trees die because they are girdled by their own buried root flares.

    • Thing is debris over time becomes soil, you should see the soil excavation done to save a 500 year old pecan Garrett did. And I know the idea isn’t new but it has been taught by Garrett since the late 70s, so I will always credit him as the source on it.

  3. With the recent bomb threat here. The schools evacuated to a ‘safe zone’ which was predetermined.

  4. My take on bad reviews is this I read a good number and get a concensus. I add 4 and 5 reviews together and then add the rest together. If top reviews for example is 1000 and bad reviews are 100 I follow the top reviews more. Also as I read reviews I ignore the stupid people who give bad reviews that are beyond the business control or if item was used wrong. I have read reviews where people blamed the seller for damage during shipping even though it was the shippers fault. I also thinks when you give a good or bad review you should still put in your review what and how you were using item. A good or bad review gives people info that helps future people when buying something.

    • Crap, sorry wasn’t thinking clearly. I forgot about that whole different court jurisdiction detail, I’m in the 4th circuit area. However, I’d be surprised if Taser International didn’t change their educational materials etc. to reflect this ruling.

      Additionally, folks in the 4th circuit area should know their rights on this and know that in this jurisdiction LEOs can no longer simply Tase someone into compliance.

      “On January 11, 2016, the 4th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals held, in the case of Armstrong v. Village of Pinehurst et al, that the Fourth Amendment prohibits the use of a taser [an electronic control device (ECD)], unless the police can articulate an “immediate danger” to the officer or others, apart from mere resistance by the subject.”

      “The 4th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals covers five states: North Carolina, South Carolina, Maryland, Virginia and West Virginia. Law enforcement agencies in those states will now have to modify their policies and practices to comport with the court’s finding: Tasers can only be used when officers’ can articulate “immediate danger” to themselves or others. Mere physical resistance by a subject will not, in and of itself, justify the use of an ECD.

      However, states not covered by the 4th Circuit are not bound by that decision. A U.S. Supreme Court decision is mandatory on all lower federal courts, both courts of appeals and district courts. However, a federal circuit decision is mandatory on all federal courts within its circuit, but not federal courts in other circuits.

      But federal courts of appeal decisions can be cited as persuasive authority in all future cases involving similar circumstances. As such, local agencies should note this decision and consider whether or not to follow it. Certain circuits, like the 9th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeal, are recognized as being somewhat liberal and are more likely to follow a decision such as this one if a similar case comes before it.”

      • Also look the case here was not a guy won’t comply, tase him in a way that incapacitates him, get cuffs on him and move on.

        No this was using a taser more like a stun gun, over and over and over.

        I know how tasers work, I had the training by choice. When you get hit you go the hell down.

        So without conflating other issues, when the Tulsa officer fired his taser had pea brain not flinched and killed the guy, the issue was seconds from being resolved.

        I did talk to my local contacts about this over the weekend and while some overall policy changes have been implemented about pain compliance use, the policy of if I can justify physically taking you down, I can tase your ass is still in place.

        Many officers seem to feel in many situations it is safer for everyone involved.

        • Agreed on the Tulsa pea-brain and that proper implementation of a Taser is generally safer for all parties involved. I wasn’t really disagreeing I just wanted point out that there had been a bit of a revelation(fairly big in the 4th circuit or at least with the instructor at the recert class I just took) and at least some are calling for more judicious use. Like you mentioned a while back with more widespread use of body cams I can see it being a positive overall but with possible negative implications as well.

  5. Re: the sick Oaks. The black galls the original caller described shows that the Oaks are dying from “Sudden Oak Death”, which is a major epidemic on the Pacific coastal states and is easily spread. See

    Sudden oak death is a disease of oak trees caused by an invasive plant pathogen, Phytophthora ramorum. It currently occurs in coastal California counties from Monterey to Humboldt and in a small portion of southwest Oregon. It is estimated to have killed more than 1 million oak and tanoak trees during the last decade. It is easily spread. If this proves to be a “Patient Zero” situation in your area, you should, , after confirming this is the disease you have, cut down and burn all infected trees and sterilize all cutting implements and the ground around the base of infected trees. We have local forests where 80% of the trees are dead or dying, so this should be taken very seriously. It goes after stressed trees during droughts, and spreads massively when the season is wet and warm. I hope this helps.

    • They say the same thing about Oak Wilt here in Texas, funny thing is when you use Garrett’s program said trees rebound about 90% of the time and if you do it preemptively they never get it.

  6. The the caller with the question about the grapes over a dog area.

    Please remember grapes are poisonous to dogs. Google it and see the problems.

  7. The bit about how to deal with bomb risks reminds me of that old saying, “Never mind about the bullet with your name on it, be concerned about the one addressed ‘To Whom It May Concern.”

  8. I have a huge Black Spanish grapevine trained over my chicken coop and greenhouse for exactly the same reason the listener described about a dog run. Shade in summer and sun when it goes dormant. The fertility thing made the vine so huge that it has taken over the whole part of the yard and the neighbor’s too. It takes hours to untangle and prune every winter. So much nitrogen makes for more foliage and less fruit I find. While the shade is nice, here the rainy summers combine with the excessive foliage and create an awful lot of rotten leaf mess especially in the fall – and I have to deal with that as well as the routine cleaning up after the animals. It also creates a really damp microclimate in the run which is not ideal. I ended up putting a metal roof on the run and will eventually relocate the vine.

  9. Sons of Anarchy was available on amazon prime video last I checked. The last episode where they play the song that you closed with was tough to watch.

  10. Jack, I really appreciate your reply to my question about prepping for getting my apples planted. Exactly what I needed.