Episode-1323- Listener Calls for 3-28-14 — 22 Comments

  1. I really like Kale and all forms of Cabbage. One of my seasonal neighbors has ordered seeds, which upon further research, are a bit tough to germinate, so I will give it a shot. My initial concern was that a Zone 5b may not overwinter, since where it grows in Europe is a tad milder than our winters. But I’ll continue to dig. He got them from ‘restoration seeds’

  2. I give you a metal container full of beer that you can’t open. – I hate those kegger parties where you don’t have a tap 🙁 That normally leads to dangerous stunts.

    Wonder if he has no bees, its IL they might have sprayed all those out of existence. Would be nice if he said he is getting tons of flowers and no fruit.

  3. If you want to build pasture with adding something, one thing I would recommend is going to horse stables and asking to take their material. They stack it in giant piles so it is composting hot, and are always happy to have it removed. Its normally a pine/cedar sawdust mix with horse poop that has been composted or is in the process of. Some batches I got have 100s of 1000s of worms in it so I added them to my property too. That is how I said hey this is done 🙂

    I totally get the argument you were making, just saying there is a lot of free material, maybe if you want a quick boost of fertility not 2 inches. If you found a place that loaded, you could bring a dump truck in. Using a pickup, I got 15 yards (6 trips) to build 60 feet of huglemounds. Downfall was it has seeds 🙁 so sucks for huglemounds, but great for a pasture if you wanted to spread it. Also found in our county the local ag department has a manure spreader you can borrow. You put your name on the list and when its your turn you get the spreader.

    All this to me begs the question to why the hell the hay farmers aren’t jumping on this stuff.

  4. Not sure if it would work with fruit trees but my grandmother used to root cuttings from roses by placing the cutting into a large potato and then planting that. She would trim off any potato growth. You would not believe how many of the roses rooted that way. She said the potato kept it moist and fed the cutting at the same time. Might be an idea for the guy who wants to root his mom’s pear treat to try.

  5. Topic Time Markers

    [5:47] The Year 1323
    [10:11] Thoughts on legal technicalities of small businesses
    [17:31] Rain catchment, first flush and drip irrigation
    [17:31] Sizing swales in arid climates
    [25:37] Can a small government be worse then a large one at times
    [37:11] Propagation of a real family heirloom pear tree
    [44:21] Can swales cause landslides – it depends
    [48:26] Why is the Fed printing money and yet we have so little inflation
    [1:03:28] How would you design a permaculture golf course
    [1:08:31] Why would strawberry, black berry and cucumbers grow well but not produce
    [1:14:54] What is sea kale
    [1:17:14] What is the difference between composting and building top soil

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  6. It was awesome to hear my question being played on air. Your insights into the legal issues surrounding business permits were not what I expected you to say. Definitely gave me something to think about. Thanks for all the great stuff you put out Jack!

  7. When you hear ‘government bond’ (which sounds good).. think government bondage, as it is literally another chain of debt being placed around the neck of a slave.

    The process of ] FED (bank) Treasury [ currency creation is a enterprise who’s goal is the enrich a group of oligarchs by capturing and enslaving a previously free people, and putting them to work. Forever.

    And.. government bonds = war. Which makes sense, slavery and warfare are close cousins.

    The first government bonds were issued by England to fight a war with France in 1693. US T-Bills began their life in 1917 to fund WWI.

    Interestingly, the IRS, while wanting people to FILE an income tax return for 1913 (for the first time) didn’t collect taxes that year (1914). And according to Wikipedia, was overwhelmed with the workload and doubled its staff, in 1919 they were still processing 1917 returns.

    So they weren’t ready to start snapping on chains until a couple of years after the formation of the FED and the introduction of the income tax.

    When did WWI begin.. 1914, the year after the FED was formed and the income tax introduced.

    So get out those tinfoil hats.. that’s some awfully ‘convenient’ timing. ;-p

  8. It is easy to create money, it is difficult to produce wealth.

    money – a current medium of exchange in the form of coins and banknotes

    wealth – abundance of valuable material possessions or resources

    The FED/Governments (FEDament?) goal is to trick/coerce you into trading your wealth, for their currency. Particularly your most valuable possession.. your time.

    Like any band of shysters.. if they manage to trick/coerce you into this deal, they will still try to chisel and cheat you on any deal they’ve agreed to (No new taxes.. Stable currency value.. put away for your retirement.. blah blah blah).

    The ‘coerce’ portion of this swindle is funded and staffed.. by you.

  9. Hey Jack,

    Just wanna say thanks for the heads up on soaking the lueceana seeds. Soaked em and they all swoll up after two days, and I’ve already have sprouts. Hoping my jujube seeds start sprouting with the same treatment. Half of my jujube I cracked out of the shell and the other half I left in while soaking.

    Thanks again and keep up the good work,


  10. I guess I don’t understand Jack’s lack of understanding of how people involved in small and local government can help us. In theory, the anarchist believe that we don’t need government oversight, but in reality, we are stuck with it. For example, when Joel Salatin wanted to process his own chickens, the state was not open to his ideas with open arms cause the powers in charge did not want him getting into “their” market and didn’t want the competition. They made it extremely difficult for him, the laws that were written, took away liberty and freedom because that was their goal.

    If Joel had a dozen other farmers and a huge client list and people in government at the state level promoting liberty and opposing oppression he could have gotten his wish much easier. I haven’t follow his goal of processing beef in the manner he desires, but he just can’t go and process beef the way he chooses cause he will likely end up in the clink.

    When I look the world around us, the real world, Ukraine, Argentina, Syria, Mexico,and Venesla places that are failing right now for the common man, how does the anarchist fair in those societies? I still think we need to have collective units cause there will always be collective units wanting to take away what we have, what we have worked hard for.

    • @jeff –

      There are a couple of things here..

      First, you acknowledge that ‘government’ is NOT ‘us’ (‘..government can help us.’) and then state that we are ‘stuck with it’.

      This is akin to saying ‘hey.. there’s no way to get out of this slave collar, so why even try’. You accept defeat/subjugation/slaughter without a struggle.

      Next, you suggest that ‘government’ did, and does, make Joel Salatin and many other lives miserable.. and then propose that instead of getting rid of the local ‘protection racket’, you put together a bigger gang, and take it over.

      Finally, you look to places where ‘gang warfare’ is rampant (gangs are fighting over who gets to run the local rackets).. and suggest that what we need is for one gang to beat the others so they (our masters) can protect us.

      Am I missing anything?

      • Missing anything? How about putting your own spin on someone else’s comment.

        Being stuck with the government is just that, paying taxes, living the rules that they made, plain and simple. Don’t see no where, where I stated defeat without a struggle. How about having member in government that we choose and serve us.

        No where did I mention that we instill a bigger gang to take over, who about one governing body that permits and works with local farmers instead of against them.

        Since you are so smart, where is your solution to limiting the power of gangs and such, so me some examples.

        Next time you comment on someone’s comment, you shouldn’t read into it your skewed opinion.

        Yes, I think you are missing something.


        • @jeff
          wasn’t trolling.

          you made an assertion:
          ‘we are stuck with government’

          this is stated in the same way that you would state ‘the sun will rise in the morning’..

          but the existence of ‘government’, particularly in its present form, is not a physical law. Its a social convention that exists now, and that has changed over time.

          To accept it as ‘inevitable’ (‘there’s nothing we can do about it) is to surrender without fighting. Which is why there are popular propaganda phrases like ‘you can’t fight city hall’ (which is a FALSE statement).

          As for the ‘gangs’ statement..

          you said that a group of special interests was in control of government, and using it to make Joel’s life miserable (a ‘gang’ in my parlance).

          Your solution was to put together another big group of people and try and take over the government (another ‘gang’).. so that your group would ensure that the government was not used against your group.

          The only thing I was trying to say about that (again.. badly) is that its a slippery slope. Everyone believes that only THEIR group knows what is ‘good’ for everyone ELSES lives and should therefore ‘be in charge’. But every group believes that.. including the one currently in charge.

          You can say ‘yeah, but my group is right!’ but its a slippery slope.

          So the minarchist/anarchist solution is.. maybe no one should be ‘in charge’ of anything except their own lives.

          In short.. minarchism/anarchism is a philosophy of humility (Maybe I’m NOT god.. and shouldn’t be trying to run other peoples lives).

          What prompted the post was the last part.. about areas that are in chaos being an example of life in anarchist society.

          They are not. They are battle grounds where gangs are fighting for control of ‘the farm’. Which group (gang) will get to tell everyone else what to do?

          In other words.. despite the rhetoric on Fox.. just elites squabbling over who owns this or that group of slaves. Who owns this or that area of land.

          There may be ‘well meaning’ people fighting for genuine freedom in these messes.. but from what I’ve seen in the news, they’re being used as ‘useful idiots’.

          but, I do apologize for being offensive @jeff.. I stated my opinion about your post very poorly, and a bit rudely. I’ll try and make sure I don’t post anything until after my coffee in the future.

  11. “The spirit of the times may alter, will alter. Our rulers will become corrupt, our people careless. A single zealot may commence persecutor, and better men be his victims. It can never be too often repeated that the time for fixing every essential right on a legal basis is while our rulers are honest and ourselves united.

    From the conclusion of their war for independence, a nation begins going down hill. It will not then be necessary for the government to resort every moment to the people for support. The people will be forgotten, therefore, and their rights disregarded. The people will forget themselves but in the sole faculty of making money, and will never think of uniting to effect a due respect for their rights.

    The shackles, therefore, which shall not be knocked off at the conclusion of that war will remain on them long, will be made heavier and heavier, till their rights shall revive . . . or expire in a convulsion.”

    –Thomas Jefferson

  12. “Most people prefer to believe their leaders are just and fair even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because most people don’t want to admit they don’t have the courage to do anything about it. Most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all.” – Michael Rivero

  13. Insidious, thanks for your polite response. I guess maybe some of my ideas my not be clear enough.

    For being stuck with the government, is that we have to live with the rules and laws that are there, doesn’t mean we like em, or they are there too help us, most of the time, they are there to suppress and oppress us.

    As far as gangs, in government right now in my opinion, they are the two major parties and they serve the lobbyist, who help them get reelected. How about attempting to get elected officials who want to represent and think in the interest of “all” citizens of their district, that’s all.
    “So the minarchist/anarchist solution is.. maybe no one should be ‘in charge’ of anything except their own lives.” I like the theory but need some history on it, mainly show me in the past where this has worked. Before America and Africa were taken over by the governments developed in Europe, there were still tribes, tribes to protect you from other tribes. Seems like when you have something, someone else is wanting to take it, am I wrong there? Even before industrialization, there still was so form of governance.
    I don’t have much faith in human nature, there needs to be a moral compass (that doesn’t seem to be there) to have people treating others compassionately and not taking advantage of them even if they could. I had a hard time finishing the book “Pushing the Bear” and just did research on the Ukraine in the 20’s and 30’s, man’s tract record is not very good and isn’t very good today.
    Nice to have a discussion on the political and social aspects of our lives and times in a reasonable manner, good day,


  14. Little late I guess, but who knows when people will read this.
    Many plants require stress in order to flower and therefore fruit. eg Some tomato varieties that have it too good with an over abundance of nitrogen will have very healthy and strong plants, but no flowering and fruiting.
    I don’t know what kind of stresses a strawberry or cucurbit might need because I’ve never had a problem with them (MO clay soil), but brambles work well in drought stress. I think if the soil is always moist, the bramble has it too good.