Episode-2034- Listener Calls for 6-29-17 — 17 Comments

  1. On the topic of electric fences I would suggest you listen to Diego’s podcast @ Permaculture voices – under the Grass Fed Life – She went into a lot of detail about the newer controllers that can handle the grass load but that will also depend on what your trying to keep in. (or out)

    this should take you to the link:

  2. Regarding the history segment, I have to admit, working in the IT Industry, I’ve been warning people that information on physical media will be lost to the future if it isn’t constantly migrated to new and current technology.

    The ironic thing is that future generations will ALWAYS be able to listen to the music of the 20th century (well, as long as they can find a pin and a piece of paper), but not necessarily be able to listen to the music that came after it.

  3. Thanks Jack! That explanation really cleared it up for me! That makes a lot more sense, especially with the farming explanation. I was caught up with thinking how if you’re a dairy farmer (I’m working as a milker this summer on a friend’s farm) you don’t get to set your schedule, your cows do. I guess you could just say that dairy farmers work for their cows as much as the cows work for you.

    • You asked REALLY good question, and I really benefited from Jack’s response, too. I think I’ll be calling in a follow up question as just started my own business a couple weeks ago.

  4. Use a Mr Heater weed torch for the weeds around the electric fence. Easy and no chemicals!. Burn those things!!

  5. Regarding fences in weeds – In my experience, much of the problem can be solved by using a higher quality fence charger. Modern low impedance chargers actually do very well in heavy vegetation if it is not too wet. The chinese made chargers from popular brands you see in the store vastly overstate their power ratings and often do not have ideal pulse lengths. Check out Parmak chargers.

    Don’t assume that the fence is not working just because grass is touching it. Buy a good meter and test the fence – if it is within acceptable shock levels then leave it alone.

    Another good option is to wire your fence such that you can control individual strands. During times of the year when vegetation is high you might convert the bottom wire to a ground, or disconnect it.

    Finally, if the fence is to control grazing animals and the grass is getting too high, you might evaluate if you can optimize the grazing strategy. Typically the animals think the “grass is greener” on the other side of the fence and try to eat up very close to it, or under it. Perhaps they can be paddocked in a way to encourage them to eat down the grass more.

  6. If you have a 2 wheeled tractor like a bcs the 34 inch Berta Flail mower is awesome for mowing under fences. Very fast. As long as your fence isn’t too low it works great.

    Also I think the sickle bar mower attachment would work well also. I haven’t tried that one though.

    Search for earth tools bcs.

  7. This year study came out strongly suggesting vaccines were harmful, but I have been waiting for it to be reported on by mainstream sources. Crickets. The study may not be the end all on the issue, but it marks the first time the whole series is match against the ultimate placebo of no vaccine at all. In the past the package inserts if they had study information would show that vaccines where compared against other vaccines.

    Here is the link: Please save a copy just in case it is “retracted” at some point in the future. Here are some more layman’s discussions of the articles:,

    Here is the package insert for MMR: . No placebo is noted any more. Also very few numbers are given related to adverse reaction, so anyone looking at this is going to have a hard time doing any kind of risk benefit analysis.

  8. RE: Fences

    When I only had about a mile of fence, I was able to keep it under control pretty well with our rider, we have a John Deere F725 front cut with an offset deck. Worked very well on the fence lines as well as doing our lawn in general. JD does have a smaller version, just as nice of a machine, but they are not produced anymore. However, we now have about 20 miles of fence on the home farm alone! I have a cutoff for the bottom wire, but it still taxes our 13J fencer. My next plan will be this:

    It’s somewhat lighter duty and I don’t anticipate it holding up very long in stock for for US, but we will work on that going forward. My holdup is we don’t have a small enough tractor right now to run it and I’m not inclined to get the tow behind version. There are commercial versions that are used in orchards that I may have to investigate as we continue growing in size, time will tell.

    • I have one of the tractor mounted ones and think they have a place but won’t work in every situation. If you’re bottom wire is near the trimmer head (lets say 8” or lower roughly) the trimmer string wraps around the wire and makes everything shimmy enough that it throws the belt between the gearbox and head. It’s a ridiculous number of bolts (7-9 I think) and it happens enough that I’ve cut back to using 3-4 bolts to speed up resetting the belt. Won’t leave the house without socket set, needle nose pliers, and a spool of string. We use 12.5 gauge high tensile and the wire is fine. The only wire breakage I’ve had was from the trimmer head getting under the fence and catching on the lip of that aluminum half moon piece on the end (top of the head). Going to grind that down to an angle to prevent that happening again.

      I thought about returning it, but decided to do some mods to make it more usable. Biggest problem is it moves too much. If I can lock my 3 point arms from side to side sway, that would help a lot. I’m also looking to add a second wheel to have a level float position as it likes to move vertically way too much and with one wheel there are a lot of times I have to raise the 3 point to lower the head and vice versa. The little wheel also likes to wiggle on rough ground. None of this would be important if you have flat smooth land.

      We also mow both sides of the fence.

      If I had it to do over, I would probably find a walk behind trimmer on wheels for the control it gives.

      In the end, we are converting this multi-wire fence to permanent fence and internal as a single wire. This will keep the cattle tighter, but let the goats roam within the perimeter. (240 acres)

      Last item is also frequently mentioned in their website reviews. They use a **** pneumatic tire. Mine lasted one use and was flat and off the bead when I tried to use it the second time. Converting it to a solid one.

  9. 1) On history not being able to access our information the link below is to an article about how Vint Cerf (VP at Google) thinks this could be a “forgotten century” because all our records are going digital.

    2} On a personal anecdote about vaccines, in the mid 90s I got a TDAP booster and had a similar reaction to what the caller’s daughter had. At the time the doctor had no problem calling it a “probable reaction” to the vaccine. I just find it odd that now they wouldn’t even acknowledge that fevers are a known reaction.

  10. Military and law enforcement use German commands because they often use German Shepards and that is the breeds native language. 😉 LOL 🙂

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