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Ron
Ron
9 years ago

The awesome thing about 80% receivers is that if you pay cash itndoes not exist as far as anyone else knows and you actually made this gun.

The “disadvantage” is that you must actually complete it. It is against federal law to pay anyone else to do it for you because they are manufacturing a firearm. New atf rulings even say you can’t even rent equipment and get instruction on how to complete it yourself. Also, these can not be transfered to anyone ever because they have no serial number and only atf licensed individuals (ie class 2 manufactures) can make weapons that are transferable. If you die by the law it must be destroyed or surrendered to tge atf. Further, there is no cost savings. Anderson lowers can be had sub $50 if you look. I have not seen 80%’s for less than $50. Usually they cone uncoated as well.

Ben R
Ben R
9 years ago
Reply to  Ron

Random thought, but could this be used to game gun buy back programs? Could you buy an 80% receiver, attack it with a drill press, then turn it in for a profit?

Kirk
9 years ago
Reply to  Ben R

Whose money are they using to buy the guns back? Think about it.

Ben R
Ben R
9 years ago
Reply to  Kirk

I agree with you 100%. It’s definitely not a moral, or even effective, way to make money. I meant it more as kind of a funny thought experiment. Imagine showing up to a gun buy back with a crate full of mangled hunks of aluminum that you can legally prove are “firearms”.

Ron
Ron
9 years ago
Reply to  Ben R

Perhaps but usually they offer $50 for a handgun and $100 for a long gun… often in the gift card form. Doesn’t seem very profitable. I have considered setting up shop and offering patrons $150 for anything cool or valuable.

One time I saw a picture of the “guns taken off the street” and one was a demilled Law rocket launcher. Lol

Kirk
9 years ago

A good class for someone new or with little experience is Appleseed. It is very affordable. You will get very thorough coverage of safety, plus all the fundamentals of marksmanship. Although the class is rifle based, almost all of the concepts will spill over to handgun if you apply a tiny bit of logic. I can’t tell you how many people say their handgun marksmanship improved after taking this class. Bonus: You will hear about the American Revolution and why the Founders felt that private ownership of arms was important enough to write it down for us.

Sam Williams
Sam Williams
9 years ago

I have an AK pistol (7.62×39) that I am making my own sling for, gotta try short sling.

Tim Covington
9 years ago

1. Thank you for this. The gun podcasts I listen to have been nothing but politics the last few weeks. It was great to hear a podcast that was just guns and shooting.
2. Another option for someone who wants a non “assault” rifle for defense and/or hunting is the Mossberg MVP Patrol Rifles. They come in 223 and 308. They are designed to take AR pattern magazines. They are bolt action (so you don’t have the prone problems). And, they have both iron sights and the ability to mount a scope.

Joe
Joe
9 years ago

M1a’s are great but do not offer the level of customization is limited and very expensive (vs ar10). That’s why I sold mine. Quite heavy. Beautiful gun though.

Karim
Karim
9 years ago

TRS-25 is a decent red dot, they even sell one with the riser integrated (so you don’t have to buy one separately and attach it)

Kevin
Kevin
9 years ago

I am not into country but that song made my eyes water. I have a Kentucky rifle that has been in my family since it was made almost 200 years ago ( all by hand) lock stock and barrel. With a brass patch box on the opposite side of the cheek rest.It is also know as a Pennsylvania rifle to some. That’s where my family settled .percussion 36 caliber weighs 12 lbs at 4 foot 8 inches over all. the bore is pitted as well as the percussion area.
my Daughter will get it as my son could care less. what a shame. keep up the great shows Jack.

Matt
Matt
9 years ago

Thanks for the in-depth response to the ‘minimum maintenance’ question. I know the right/best answer is to clean thoroughly after every use. But…life happens. Good to know I can fall back on your middle-tier cleaning if schedule doesn’t permit the real deal.

Also, I appreciated your level-headed response on the 9mm vs 45ACP question. I think a lot of people in the prepper movement start imagining themselves as the protagonist in some post-apocalyptic fantasy and just run with the idea. Couple that with good marketing from the rapidly expanding prepper industry and you end up with people stockpiling thousands of defensive rounds, buying a ‘survival knife’, and calling it a day. It’s really refreshing – and helpful – for people to hear a sensible voice grounding them back in reality. That’s exactly why I started listening to your podcast 5 years ago, and why I’m still a fan.

sheafferselect
sheafferselect
9 years ago

Hello I work for large auction company in PA I am in the firearms division I have access to appraisers and experts!

I would be happy to help Dan from the frozen tundra.

Jack has my contact info if you would like to contact me or if Jack approves I will post my contact info
Anthony From SheafferSelect TSP
I will be happy to have one of our experts contact you and/ or collection for consignment or appraisals

Angry Bob
Angry Bob
9 years ago

Jack-great show as always.

FYI–the PAP M85 does NOT take AR15 magazines. The magazines for the AK need a ‘lip’ on the rear of the body in order to lock in to the magazine catch.

Whiterussiansp
Whiterussiansp
9 years ago

The 2 things that have most concerned me with this gun are the plastic magwell and the traditional attribution of some of the AK platform’s reliability to the tapered cases the rounds use which .223/5.56 lacks.

Moreso the plastic magwell though.

WhiteRussianSP
WhiteRussianSP
9 years ago
Reply to  Whiterussiansp

I probably should have been more specific. I’m not afraid of plastic in the slightest; polymer is a proven technology and works great. It’s a significant component of most of my personal weapons and magazines. That said, I wouldn’t waste a drop of time or money on a Tapco product for example, they’re crap. What concerns me about the polymer magwell is Century’s execution of it. They have a well-earned reputation for cost-shaving, corner-cutting, and overall lack of QC…I don’t trust their plastic or their ability to attach it to the metal receiver. Just my opinion, admittedly, and not necessarily from a mainstream point of view.

trekker111
trekker111
9 years ago

For the guy looking at 22 hornet for cheap shooting – he mentioned he already has a 38/357 lever action. For less than $100, probably less than $75, he can buy a Lee lead furnace, and a set of Lee molds for cast bullets. Everything else he needs to cast bullets, he probably has around the house already

Conservative 38 spl loads will be 5 cents or less for powder and primer. Lead can be scrounged for free, but even if he goes to a scrapyard and buys lead that people have turned in for 2 or 3 bucks a pound, you would have less than 10 cents per round. And the brass will last a long time, and is cheap to begin with. Much cheaper than 22lr.

MN crazy
MN crazy
9 years ago

For the gent from MN with the rare gun. One resource to try calling is Puglisi Gun Emporium in Duluth. They sell very rare firearms, so I would imagine they could put you in touch with an appraiser. Very good people there.

Patrick
Patrick
9 years ago

Jack,
What was the scope you talked about having on your Ruger 10/22? I’m shopping for a scope for my 10/22 and I recall you saying the quality of glass on your scope was comparable to the Leupold but at a lesser price. Was it the Simmons?
Love the show!

Ben R
Ben R
9 years ago
Reply to  Patrick

The scope he mentioned is the Redfield Revolution 2-7 by 33. It’s also American made.

trekker111
trekker111
9 years ago
Reply to  Patrick

You also have to consider that each scope manufacturer has several classes of scopes, each intended to compete in different areas of the market.

So when Jack said that as far as his eyes can see, his redfield revolution is as clear as a leupold, that is a statement that lacks context. As clear as what leupold? A leupold rifleman? Vx-III? Mark 4? Mark 8? They are all leupolds, but all different quality levels. The answers to those questions are: yes, maybe, no, and not in a million years.

Both the redfield revolution and revenge lines will serve 99% of 22 shooter’s perfectly well. In fact, when viewed in the context of the rifle, ammo, and the role of a 22, putting a higher quality scope on a 22 would be a waste in many regards.

Patrick
Patrick
9 years ago

I appreciate all the input. My eyes aren’t all that great. I’ve got a Leupold Mark IV on my .308, the 3-10 magnification. While I know I’m spending a lot for glass for a .22, at least I know I’ll be able to clearly see what I intend to shoot.

On the .308, I wish I’d spent a little more for the 4-25 magnification.

Thanks again for all the input.