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Lukkas
Lukkas
9 years ago

RE: History Segment

Better question: without government sticking its nose into people’s business who would enforce patents?

MB
MB
9 years ago

I was just at Raintree Nursery on Saturday picking out about 7 fruit trees some vines, ground cover and tea plants. I spent about $500 there that I would not have if I didn’t hear about them on the Survival Podcast. Anyway, if you live in Washington or Oregon it’s worth the afternoon drive out to visit the nursery. The scenery is just gorgeous and they are nestled in the mountains near the tiny town of Morton.

I have a 1/10acre suburban lot and now have a collection of 13 trees, 10 of which are fruiting. It can be done.

Lukkas
Lukkas
9 years ago
Reply to  MB

I went with Burntridge instead because they’re a fair margin less expensive. Got 30ish trees and a bunch of shrubs in the ground now.

Granted I’d have saved essentially 100$ by picking them up in person rather than having them shipped.

MB
MB
9 years ago
Reply to  Lukkas

Thanks for the tip, I’m ordering a catalog from them. It looks like they are at the farmers market in Olympia starting in April, so I’ll have to check that out.

JMAC
JMAC
9 years ago

Gophers love Sunchokes so I plant them in protected raised bed planters. For those that have Aquaponic grow beds, they grow well in those as well.

Lukkas
Lukkas
9 years ago

Also, yes it would be amazing if Raintree ended up in the MSB. [Bobwells just seems so inappropriate for those of us in the PNW.]

Cory
9 years ago

I’ve bought sunchokes at a number of different Asian groceries where they’re about 1/4 the price of Whole Foods.

horatio
horatio
9 years ago

can I plant these things in groups in a 4ft by 4 ft area , like all ground nuts together, all jerusalem artichokes together?

Evelyn
Evelyn
9 years ago

Mulberry leaves are very good human food too! The leaves are very high in protein.

KM_HH6
KM_HH6
9 years ago

I love Stark Bros. – Planted 3 small home orchards over the course of 15 years. Wonderful trees. Started my current orchard with them almost exactly a year ago. That being said, I ordered my fall trees from Bob Wells – calipers of the trees were bigger, and the peach has two blooms on it after less than a year in the ground (80*F here today – our last frost is supposed to be in APRIL – ugh!). I’m not supposed to be adding to the orchard this year as I’m spending time and money on my chickens (and maybe my stock tank brooder is going to become a quail raising thing). But those sand cherries sound awfully good. Got a 100 ft fence line that I need to do something with… And dwarf mulberries – didn’t know there was such a thing. Thanks for another great show.

PA prepper
PA prepper
9 years ago

Thanks for the show Jack! We try to add a new perennial food to our garden each year. A vegetarian friend gave me a tip on sunchokes in Zone 6. Wait until after the 1st or 2nd frost to harvest the root and the “fart effect” is greatly reduced. Seems to work for me! I let mine grow 2 years before harvesting and dividing. I now have lined the edge of the neighboring property as a tall buffer plant. They can get super tall.

clayton jacobs
9 years ago

I would put in my endorsement for Peaceful Valley for acquiring plant for this spring… I have purchased a bunch of stuff from them this year and they are
all the highest quality, great packaging, healthy… everything you could want.
Great company!

Wayne
Wayne
9 years ago

My Jujubes get their leaves absolutely stripped by Leaf cutter bees. 🙁

Evelyn Jane
Evelyn Jane
9 years ago

I’m quite certain that I have Sand Cherry’s and dig up the shoots to restarted , but can they be cut at ground level and rooted??

Rob
Rob
9 years ago

Sand Cherry and Black Currant together make an awesome mead. I’ve also taken them to a wine level, seriously like drinking a smoky red.

Diana Robertson
9 years ago

Jack, thank you so much for this permaculture/plant-based episode! Episodes like this are why I subscribe to TSP.

I have a question for you or the other subscribers – do some of the nurseries use a lot of chemicals or growth enhancers when propagating plants, which can affect the fruit, and do some nurseries grow plants more naturally? Last year I won a Dave Wilson Nursery “3 in 1” fruit tree and it looked absolutely bizarre due to the extraordinarily large number of buds on it….

Diana Robertson
9 years ago

great! thanks, Jack!!

Streiticus
Streiticus
9 years ago

Awesome episode. Learned about some new plants and encouraged me to get some others even more.

Robert_Indiana
Robert_Indiana
9 years ago

On Blueberries… they are very adaptable, but keep in the back your head that they originally are a bog edge plant, hence it’s preference toward acidity. We have alkaline soils here too due to a preponderance of lime stone (nothing like sitting on coral down there though, sorry Jack) and I like the idea of isolating the soil around the plant. Elemental sulphur is commonly used to increase acidity in soil, so I plant (guild) mullein all around my blueberries as they mine sulphur with their deep tap roots. Would a raised mound tend to dry it out more though? If you can micro-climate design around those blueberries I’d consider mimicking bog-edge where possible.

Robert_Indiana
Robert_Indiana
9 years ago

Oh hey, on Groundnut… I got some from herb-roots.com some years ago. Not the potato sized heroic type, but they all vined up really nice. Just an alternate source fyi. http://www.herb-roots.com/roots/groundnut.html

Farmer Dan
Farmer Dan
9 years ago

Question for Jack and everyone else out there. I would love to purchase a number of trees, vines and bushes now but my planting areas aren’t prepared and won’t be until some time this summer.

Does it make more sense to wait until fall to order and plant everything when I have my orchard planned out and prepped or do I buy everything now and keep them in pots so that they are growing in an area that I can control and plant them slightly more mature in the fall?

Lukkas
Lukkas
9 years ago
Reply to  Farmer Dan

Keeping them in pots during the growing season is not a good idea. They’re going to get more rootbound.

Planting them out IN summer is viable if you have irrigation set up out there [or if you live in a damp-summer climate with reliable rain every week.

Eric
Eric
9 years ago

Anyone want some wild blackberry? Let me know. I’ve got it growing all over the place.

David
David
9 years ago

As Jack noted I’m one of those folks that grow Jerusalem Artichoke in zone 9 (near Houston). He featured an email of mine on a recent show where I was the guy who grew so many that I had to take the extra to farmers market and sold it on consignment!

surfivor
surfivor
9 years ago

Jack,

I may be able to send you a big bunch of ground nut tubers from Maine if I get out to where they grow sometime. I know the stuff from Oikios or any place else is not cheap. The place I have in mind is along the sandy banks of a river where the tubers are easy to harvest. I know of some other patches on the side of the road that have quite a few tubers as well. Finding them in Mass is not so easy. I know you would appreciate these tubers .. I sent some to my sister and to a permaculture place in Idaho. My sister never had the time to plant them and the other place somehow failed to get them established ..

I also have some groundnut seeds which are not easy to find as most colonies do not produce seeds. I have sprouted the seeds recently so I know they are viable. I sent some of the seeds to oikos