Episode-1117- Women of Prepping Series Episode Two

Jenn Fowler of Frugal Upstate

Jenn Fowler of Frugal Upstate

After an 11 year career as an Army Logistic Officer, Jenn Fowler traded her combat boots for tennis shoes and became stay at home mom in Upstate New York.  Not long after that she combined her love of writing with her love of saving money to created the Frugal Upstate blog in Jan 06, where she helps teach people how to “Use what you have, get creative and save”.

Jenn now lives with her husband, two kids, one dog and 2 rodents on the “Frugal Upstate Village Homestead” in a small Upstate NY community eerily reminiscent of Mayberry.   Jenn is a professional blogger, speaker and social media consultant working with fortune 500 companies such as Hershey’s and Walmart.

She is a founding member of  the Walmart Moms program, a frequent guest contributor to H&R Block’s Blog and the Together Counts Blog, and a member of both the Homestead Blogger’s and the Food Storage for Families Blogger Networks.

In her nonexistent “spare time” she enjoys reading romance and fantasy, knitting, jewelry making, gardening and cooking.

Join Us Today As We Discuss…

  • Is it harder or just different for a woman when it comes to prepping
  • How Jenn got involved in prepping
  • How did you got her husband to go along with prepping
  • How her military service has influenced her prepping
  • What exactly is subversive prepping and why and how Jenn does it
  • How she has  built a prepper community on the sly
  • How does a woman prepper build community differently than a man
  • What’s the importance of women in networking
  • How is personal protection different for women preppers than men
  • Steps to take to prepare your children for the future
  • How  working from home is part of Jenn’s prepping lifestyle

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30 Responses to Episode-1117- Women of Prepping Series Episode Two

  1. Is download working? When I click download its starts playing instead

    • I use Chrome and it does the same thing…it pops up a player in a new tab. All I do is right click in that tab/player and do a “save as” to my computer. Then you will have the saved file.

  2. Outstanding episode! My idea of luck is that luck happens when preparation meets opportunity. And I think that the difference between the prepping styles of men and women has something to do with the difference between hunters and gatherers. Men seem to narrow their goals, but women take a broader view, as there are more berries and varieties of foods than animals. Jen, I like what you’re doing with the children, but don’t you think it would also be a good idea to get board games, card games, or balls, bats, old yard games, turn junk into useful things, etc, and learn to play with those in the family, so that it will also be familiar to them and they can teach other children to play
    them. I have bought an old set of childrens’ books,(Boodshelf for Boys and Girls, early edition) to glean those games I played as a child but have forgotten the rules. These ten volumes provide for almost anything a child would need to get an education, learn skills, and recreate. Childcraft is similar. I also save and buy a variety of sizes of clothes and shoes, which will fit some child in need. If you think I’m going to the extreme, then consider it my hobby.

    When we went to live in Korea just after the war, buses were made of oil barrels, and toys were made from Coke cans, wire, strings, paper, etc. but that takes looking at everything differently and makes us possibility thinkers. I think you are also one. Thanks again to both of you for a great and helpful show.

    • Aayla-Yes, I agree. There was so much to talk about that of course we couldn’t cover everything.

      On the book side of things I have begun collecting some classic works and some classic youth/children’s literature. Things like the Narnia series, Little House, Anne of Green Gables, Grimms Fairytales. When I see overarching “text” type books that might be useful for supplementing education I also pick those up–I’ve gotten some pretty good grammar tomes, the complete works of Shakespeare, an American Literature textbook and the like.

      We have lots of board games and we do play them–just a few days ago my son (Buddy on my blog) and I had a pretty killer connect 4 match 🙂 He’s also killer at Scrabble and dominoes. I try to encourage playing those types of things because it helps us to bond, is fun, and also provides fun activities that can be done almost anywhere and independent of electricity.

      I’ve considered the clothing and shoes situation–right now clothing is so cheap, and yet cheaply made. The kids grow fast and they have their own sense of style etc. I am looking at buying some classic items (plain jeans, turtlenecks, tshirts etc) ahead as I find them on sale–but my strategy for a long term situation is to improve my sewing skills and to learn how to draft patterns. I have purchased some basic womens and girls patterns for pants, shirts, skirts and such that would be easy to change in order to meet current styles –and I have several books on making alterations. It’s actually quite hard to find decent boys/mens patterns now, but I’m working on it.

      • Thanks for your response, Jen, and I see we are on the same page. On the clothes, good to learn to sew. Do you have a treadle sewing machine, yet? That’s what I learned to sew on at age five. You will need plenty of extra needles as a few might end up in your fingers. Good to know your family is spending so much time together for the reasons you sight, and it also fosters cooperation and trust all the way around. May I assume that since you have such varied books, that you also have music books, and some instruments? Hymns are comforting. As for clothing, remember that thrift stores and yard sales also have less expensive and sometimes quality clothing. My patterns include washable sanitary napkins and diapers that can be made of old tees or sweats. True that children in school have peer pressure and competition, but in a dire situation, they probably won’t be in school, and their priorities will change. I took a couple of my great grandchildren to a earth skills gathering last fall, where they learned to make fire from scratch, track animals, cook on an open fire, make cordage, and other primitive skills that make them look forward camping trips and discovering interesting ways of doing things and sharing those things with their friends. Looking forward to reading your blog!

  3. great episode. I look forward to checking her page. I agree with you on NYC. Hope you dont include eastern long island in there as well though. We still have lots of farms and vineyards as well as hunters.
    John R
    Eastern Long Island.

    • JM-I love Eastern Long Island–lovely towns and delicious wine out there. . . unfortunately you’re stuck on the other side of NYC being a redheaded stepchild! It tends to skew your politics even worse then what we get up here. Glad you enjoyed the episode, look forward to seeing you over on FB & the blog!

  4. What a fantastic episode and what a bucket of wealth Jenn is. I’d love to hear more and hope she’ll do more podcasts. As a veteran and Soldier for 20 years, I couldn’t agree more with the perspective gleaned from serving in countries where the bare essentials are often luxuries. I also find it priceless as a man to hear some of the female perspectives explained, particularly in regards to prepping. These things would have to be in the instruction manual if such a thing were to ever exist. Such an incredibly articulate and valuable resource Jenn is for the rest of us. You are too, Jack, on the guy side of the coin.

    • Ok, now I’m blushing! You are too kind! If Jack ever wanted to have me back on, I’d love to. I think that I could spend an entire hour just talking about the lessons learned from the military that pertain to prepping, or about raising children and preparing them for what is to come.

  5. Loved your perspective, my wife will enjoy this one as well 🙂 Thanks for your service as well!

  6. Thanks for bring on Jenn. I love this episode of Ladies of Prepping. I know my wife will enjoy this episode.

  7. Maryclare Peterson

    Thank you for having Jenn on your show !
    I am a subversive (servasive?) prepper and didn’t know it! ha!
    I seem do this alot with friends and family.
    i learned some stuff, thanks much to you Jenn!
    Maryclare in Mn

  8. I’ve had a great time listening. This is the stuff that should be in the mass media instead of the crap we see today. Both women and men need to hear the ways of living such as Jenna implements, and then inspire to practice it themselves (and our society would be so much better off).

    • Laurence-You and I both wish this was the kind of stuff the media was talking about and encouraging. Our country would be in a much better place. I think you are right–there is only so much “telling” folks you can do, sometimes setting the example for others is a better way.

  9. I really enjoyed this interview. If you could have this lady on more often, I think my wife might listen more.

  10. Didn’t like the first episode in this series, but this interview is excellent. I will definitely be checking out her site!

  11. thewarriorhunter

    great show. i will comment on the flashbang holster that was mentioned briefly: great idea, but you have to have the body type for it to work.

    i got one for my wife thinking it was the answer to her conceal carry problems but it didn’t work for her, it printed terribly. she doesn’t have a huge bust so with anything she wore her gun printed very noticeably. i think the only time it didn’t print was when she wore one of my t-shirts, and she wasn’t going to go out in that.

    • thewarriorhunter-The way mine stays concealed the best is if I adjust it so that the part of the holster holding the barrel and the upper portion of the gun is actually tucked under the bottom band of my bra–but it tends to shift. And of course standing up straight seemed to help the fall of my clothes/make it more concealed. I’m not 100% sold on it. I have a CC purse which I use sometimes, and I’m thinking of getting a Remora holster that would supposedly be able to be tucked inside of many different waistbands. Still looking for a better solution–but at least I have a couple of options right now. I also carry a small pepper spray in my purse at all times now as a non lethal alternative.

      • thewarriorhunter

        She carries pepper spray and a ‘tactical’ pen. She works in a hospital so she can’t CC there, but she is willing to carry what she can. We need to look at more purse options for her since all of the holsters she has tried have flopped.

  12. Brian W/NorIDhunter

    @ Jenn – Thanks for a great interview. As a part time house husband I appreciate the menu tips from your blog and am incorporating a few of your recipes into this week’s menu for some variety.

    Nothing “against WIP #1, but like Stephen opined, I much preferred this one. I “think” your past podcasting experience may have been a key, and if you don’t have “enough on your plate” (wink) you should consider it again in the future.

    Look forward to more good stuff! Take care over there!!

    • Brian–Glad the menu planning tips are useful. Some weeks my meal plan goes all to heck–but in general just having a plan reduces the amount of stress in my life tremendously. Also, I’d love it if you swung back by the blog and let me know how you liked the recipes 🙂

      As for the interview, it’s so nice that so many folks have found it interesting and worthwhile. I agree, there is a bit of “showmanship” to speaking on air, having had previous experience at that (as well as a background in music and theater throughout my school years and adult life) probably helped things go a bit more smoothly. Also having a nice headset/microphone kept both of our voices at about the same volume and quality which helped–sometimes it can be distracting when the call quality is completely different 🙂

      You know, I enjoyed doing the podcast so much that it does have me missing it. However my past podcast (Frugal Coast2Coast–you can still find it on iTunes) was a joint show. Having two folks to go back and forth with the topic/conversation was easier then the few times I tried doing it completely on my own (which I never aired because I wasn’t pleased with how they came out). And those joint shows once a week usually took about an hour of prep work on the outline etc. What Jack does when he’s on the air by himself is far more work and far more of a skill then most people realize 🙂 All that being said, I’d love to be back on again and I will consider doing some podcasting–especially if there are particular topics folks really wanted to hear.

  13. What a great interview! I hope she’s on again.

  14. Hey Jack,
    great show. ABout JM Bullion discount code. If his code didn’t work, he would have known before hitting final order.. anyway, I had on file a code that wasn’t working, so I went to the MSB member area & it saw the code had been updated [makes sense – so expired members can’t continue to use their old codes I assumed] but anyway new one worked. That may have been the person’s issue. Also, JM bullion customer service is awesome. If you call them with an issue, you get a real person & they will fix it if they can. They are my go-to place for PM. Thanks!

  15. I am behind on my podcast listening and have just got to this one today. Wonderful! Thank you so much. I love how you keep it real and keep it easy. That’s my kind of style right there.