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Episode-1329- Thoughts on Remote Land, BOLs, etc.

A Pre Fab Mini Cabin at a BOL

A Pre Fab Mini Cabin at a BOL

A few of you guys have asked for a few shows that get a bit away from the homesteading/permaculture stuff and a bit deeper into some of the other more typical “survival topics” we have covered before.  Today we do the first of a few shows I have planned to answer that need.

Today we discuss remote land/home ownership and the unique advantages and challenges it represents.  Far to many see a BOL solely as a place for when the shit has really hit the fan, like TEOTWAWKI level stuff.  The reality is a BOL serves a variety of functions.

In our case we haven’t had a BOL since 2011 when we moved to Arkansas to a place that had been serving as such for about 6 years at that time.  After a shot stint up there of about two years, it was clear my wife’s heart was in Texas.  We decided to sell the remote property and use the gains to improve our new homestead in Texas.

Once again now I find myself scouring places like LandsOfTexas.com, LandWatch.com and UnitedCountry.com looking for that perfect get away property.  This time my goals are a bit different, yours may be more like my first property, the one I am looking for now or something entirely different.  The purpose of today’s show is to help you find the right property for your needs.  Further to decide if having such a property is even right for you at all.

Join Me Today to Discuss…

  • Why would you want a remote property
    • Fall back location
    • Recreation
    • Investment
  • What I think makes a property desirable
    • Water
    • Access
    • Structure
    • Distance
    • Grid
    • Near a Small Town
    • Secure
    • Good Neighbors
    • No Restrictions
  • Questions to ask yourself
    • Are there other things I really should do first
    • Can I really afford it
    • How often will I really use it
    • What do I most want out of it
  • Thoughts on “Teaming Up”
    • It can work, everyone just needs to be clear going in
    • Look for people with common goals and values
    • Define use and define guests very clearly
    • Decide between common ownership and defined areas going in
    • I would likely only do this if all parties could pay cash going in
    • There are many advantages to teaming up
  • Final thoughts on BOLs

Resources for today’s show…

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Episode-1149- William Golightly on Buying Rural Land

Today on The Survival Podcast we are joined by William (Billy) Golightly.  Billy is a real estate agent that specializes in rural properties in north central Florida.

He joins us today to discuss searching for bug out or retreat properties.  We discuss things like buying old timber land that has been cut.  Earning income with a property to offset expenses.

We also talk about how to find the right type of agent for this type of property search.  When it makes sense to buy a property on the courthouse steps in a tax sale and when it doesn’t.  We cover the importance of surveys and title insurance and some creative ways to find great properties that are affordable.

Resources for today’s show…

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Episode-1030- The Hands Off Self Sufficient BOL

One thing many continue to ask me about is how to have land that is productive even if seldom managed.   The true dyed in the wool, off grid BOL.  As you might imagine Permaculture is part of the answer.

The key with land like this is it must be able to provide many of your needs but do so in a way that looks very natural.  Anyone passing near it must see it as mostly just scrub and woods like everything else around it.

The good news is the best land to do something like this with is often the cheapest land you can buy.  Generally you find “problems” that others don’t want to deal with and either you don’t care about these problems or you have a creative solution to them.  What I will lay out today is an almost perfect system and piece of land.  Odds our neither you or I will ever get anything up to this level of perfection.  We look at it only so that we can figure out how to get as close as possible based on our resources, our budgets and our region.

Join Me Today As I Discuss…

  • Why you would want to have a BOL like this in the first place
  • Shopping for land and thoughts on owner financing
  • Four big must haves for others and why you don’t want them (may be)
    • Electric Grid Access
    • Telephone Service
    • Grid water or easy well installation
    • Serviced road frontage
  • What land like this really needs to have
    • Guaranteed right of access
    • Surface water or the ability to create it
    • Decent soil
    • Trees and other on site resources
    • Reasonable terrain
    • Good solar access
    • Minimal regulations and no restrictions
    • Wildlife
  • The Perfect Piece of Land
    • River or stream on it
    • Natural spring on it
    • At least the perimeter is heavily treed
    • Native plants that are edible
    • Good population of wild game
    • Large the larger the better think 10 acres minimum, 50 is ideal
  • Some ideas for setting things up
    • Swales and ponds then more swales and ponds
    • Plant food forests and do so heavily
    • Set up some sort of hard building with a metal roof
    • Set up at minimum 2500 gallons of water catchment (potable)
    • Use coppicing and pollarding to harvest wood
    • Set up earth walled structures
    • Put in an underground structure if at all possible
    • Store as little as possible on site, hide the hell out of what you do
    • Set up high capacity wild life feeders (including for fish)
    • Build functional things that can’t be removed or easily vandalized
    • Create an “earth fence” and plant it with the nastiest stuff you can find
    • Have one way in, one apparent way out and many actual ways out
    • Use a compound approach
    • Consider “tiny houses” on tailors

Resources for Today’s Show…

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Episode-966- Developing Raw Land into a Homestead or BOL Over the Long Haul

A Pre Fab Mini Cabin at a BOL

A Pre Fab Mini Cabin at a BOL

One of the more complex questions I was asked at Ben Falk’s PDC course was about a “long term bug out”, which I needed clarification on because it can mean so many things.  What the student meant turned out to be something very relevant for the TSP community so it has become the focus of today’s show.

This person found themselves in a situation many of us face.  They have a job, not a super job but one that pays the bills.  Said job requires life in a city/town of some size and they want to be prepared to get out someday (by design or possibly by need).  They can or have already scraped up enough money to buy some raw land, say a few acres or more.  However this land has no house on it, no infrastructure, no utilities, etc.

The question was given I have such a piece of land and can only put a few thousand a year into it, what should I be doing first and where should I be heading long term.  I partially answered this question at the evening fire though a proxy who explained all this, the student was apparently beat and went off to catch some sleep in his tent.   As I answered it I realized how much my answer had changed over the past 4 years and how some of it has stayed the same.

Join Me Today to Discuss…

  • Selecting a piece of land
    • Distance from your permanent residence
    • The consideration of climate
    • Utility access
    • Size of the property
    • Surrounding community
    • Ability to appear undisturbed
    • The value of water
  • The most critical infrastructure you can set up
    • Ponds and swale structures
    • Storage facilities
    • Shelter
    • Permanent plantings
  • Taking it to a higher level
    • Earth sheltered homes in the south
    • Timber frame homes in the cool climates
    • Water catchment for every roof like structure
    • Island gardens for land locked homesteaders
    • Design the end and work backwards
    • Don’t kid yourself about what can or will be done

Resources for Today’s Show…

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Episode-868- Wade Bowlin on Bug Out Vehicles

Wade's 5-Ton XM820

Wade's 5-Ton XM820

Wade Bowlin is a self described computer nerd, network engineer, business guy, gear head, gun nut, survival junkie and prepping maniac. He joins us today to discuss bug out vehicles (BOVs).

Wade will talk to us about different ideas like: new vehicles, RVs, old vehicles, and most importantly military vehicles and trailers.  Wades bug out location is approximately 1200 west of his current location so he has put a lot of thought into getting there and have come up with two solutions:  Fast and agile or slow and tough.  My personal choices are a 2010 Ford F-150 Raptor and a 1971 AM General XM820.

Join Wade and I today as we Discuss…

  • What makes a good BOV
  • What about newer vehicles vs old vehicles
  • Where do you find and buy military surplus vehicles
  • Choosing a daily driver or special use vehicles
  • What items should you stock in your BOV at all times
  • What you should know before you buy a military vehicle
  • What a duce and a half may be a better option than a 5 ton
  • The good and bad of automatic and manual transmissions
  • What are the best resources for learning more about military vehicles
  • The value and simplicity of military technical manuals

Resources for today’s show…

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Episode-444- Setting Up A Low Cost Bug Out Location (BOL)

We talk a lot about Bug Out Locations on the show and in the forum, most listeners are more than aware by now of what they are, why you would want one and what makes a good one.   Many may also be under the belief that a BOL is beyond their financial reach.  Now for many a fully stocked second home full of survival goodies may very well be unaffordable in their current lifestyle, yet just about anyone can create a niece little hide away and at worse case have a bit of real estate diversifying their investments.

Join me today as we discuss…

  • How cheap real raw land can be even in fertile areas
  • How owning a spot of land can save you a lot of money
  • When all else fails there is always the tent
  • The teardrop trailer
  • Converting cargo trailers
  • The RV and the story of “Snob Hill”
  • The underground cache – how not to have it all destroyed
  • The empty shack bring your generator, propane and window unit AC
  • Life underground, you can do it but you may not like it
  • Encouraging native wild life, plant and animal
  • The beauty of the “Danger Shooting Range” sign
  • Fencing even just wire makes a difference
  • The hidden entrance, easy and effective
  • The importance of a TO&E and how to develop one

Resources for today’s show…

Remember to comment, chime in and tell us your thoughts, this podcast is one man’s opinion, not a lecture or sermon. Also please enter our listener appreciation contest and help spread the word about our show. Also remember you can call in your questions and comments to 866-65-THINK and you might hear yourself on the air.

Episode-433- Setting Up A Bug Out Location

Based on the response from yesterday I am going to do a show today on setting up a BOL (bug out location).  This should be a good show and will differ from previous shows on the subject as I will be discussing far more about what to do with the location than how to choose it and what to look for in its selection.  Though we will cover a bit of that to make the episode complete.

Join me today as we discuss…

  • What is a bug out location and what is its purpose?
  • Why being to remote can back fire
  • The value of a line of sight neighbor
  • Interviewing neighbors before you buy
  • On remote land you have hide everything you can’t bring in with you
  • The one thing you never want at a BOL
  • Balancing the risks vs. the reward of neighbors
  • Wild life and wild plants
  • Permanent crops and blend them into the surroundings
  • The advantages of underground structures
  • The steel container (the good, bad and ugly)
  • Water on property is golden (even seasonal)
  • The RV and the Storage Facility not ideal but damn good
  • Guns, ammo, trapping gear and fishing equipment
  • Seeds, gardening supplies and fertilizer
  • Go with long term storage food for everything short of a few weeks
  • All in all I prefer a very small community to a isolated retreat

Additional Resources for Today’s Show

Remember to comment, chime in and tell us your thoughts, this podcast is one man’s opinion, not a lecture or sermon. Also please enter our listener appreciation contest and help spread the word about our show. Also remember you can call in your questions and comments to 866-65-THINK and you might hear yourself on the air.

Episode-309- 10 Thoughts on Rural Living

OK folks I am back from the Arkansas Bug Out Location from our mini vacation.  It was great as always and Dorothy and I really had a great opportunity to learn, think and plan for our very near future.  So today I thought I would share what we experienced with you.

Additionally the house keeping segment was a bit long today but for two reasons.

1. I wanted to give you a bit more data on the Members Support Brigade.  Specificly some of the benefits which now include…

  • Several e-publications by James T. Stevens
  • 10% off of everything at Ron Hoods site
  • A free lifetime membership to Safe Castle’s discount club
  • 10% off all purchases from Western Botanicals
  • Premium videos available only to members

2. I wanted to let you know that James Stevens new book, “Making the Best of Basics” is available until midnight tonight at the pre launch price of only 29.95 with a free audio CD.  At midnight the price goes up 5 bucks and no more free CD.   This offer expired last night but since I was late letting everyone know and yesterday’s show was pre recorded I talked to James and got a 1 day extension.  Please note this is not a “marketing tactic”, I just wanted to get you guys one last chance to get the free CD and lower price if you are interested in a copy of the book.  You can get thhe book at this link – Making the Best of Basics

The main topic of today’s show is the advantages of country living so tune in today to hear my thoughts on…

  • In the country you are surrounded by teachers
  • The “freedom to walk” and what that really means
  • How people are different and the same
  • Why in the country words like silence and noise have new meanings
  • Why we seem to be naturally content with less stuff in the country vs the city
  • Why we feel less exposed to danger in rural life
  • How recreational activities like shooting don’t attract the police
  • Improvements in mental and physical health when you live in the country
  • Why country living isn’t for everyone and how some people
  • How all of these things are actually directly tied to prepping and self suffiency
  • Why preppers value their lives more then the average Joe
  • Why most people just don’t understand the quest for self suffiency

Resources for today’s show…

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Remember to comment, chime in and tell us your thoughts, this podcast is one man’s opinion, not a lecture or sermon. Also please enter our listener appreciation contest and help spread the word about our show

Episode-289- Bug In or Bug Out – 12 Questions to Ask

In the event of a disaster should you bug in or bug out (shelter in place or evacuate) is a big topic in many forums, email lists and among modern survivalists in general.  There are times when the question is easy to answer and times when it can be difficult.  The key is your life and the lives of those you love can hang in the balance of this decision so today we discuss 12 question to ask before you have to make the decision.

Tune in today as we consider the following questions…

  • Which choice gives you the best chance of survival for the scenario at hand? (this is not always clear)
  • How well prepared are you to bug in?
  • What exactly are you prepared for? (a forest fire is far different from local rioting)
  • Have evacuation orders been given?
  • What is the nature and probable duration of the threat?
  • Well staying put change anything as far as “saving your home”?
  • Where will you go and how will you get there?
  • Do you own a bug out location or have double up plans or no place to go at all?
  • Will you be able to help your community if you stay?
  • What will the impact of staying or going be on your family, can they handle what you can?
  • What can you take with you and what must you leave behind?
  • If you leave what exactly is waiting for you at your destination?

The time to answer these questions is not in the middle of a disaster but right now.  At this point you can plan, form contingencies and be prepared for a variety of outcomes. That way if the day comes your mind is ready to act and you can make the best use of the resources you have.  As always how you act and how you think is more important then your resources.

Resources for today’s show…

Remember to comment, chime in and tell us your thoughts, this podcast is one man’s opinion, not a lecture or sermon. Also please enter our listener appreciation contest and help spread the word about our show.

You also now can call in questions or comments for the host at 866-65-THINK, (866-658-4465) please read the suggestions for calling in before you do for the best chance of getting your comments on the air.

Episode-276- Listener Questions for 9-14-09

Today we do another round of listener questions on all kinds of stuff like alternative energy, gardening, real estate, bug out locations and more.

First let me take a moment to mention the sad passing of Linda Rawles (wife of James Wesley Rawles).  James have hugely contributed to the survivalist and prepper movement over the past few years.  Let me state as a husband myself that when a man gives this much his wife must give as well and his actions are driven as much by his passion to help others as to be a good husband and provider.  I can only imagine what it is like to loose the woman who is the love of your life.  Please think of James and send him your thoughts and prayers during this time.  (You can see James’ post about his loss on his blog here)

Second the audio today is not as good as usual (ironic as to my comments to aspiring podcasters today).  There is a setting on the recorder that got changed and I did not notice it until I got to my office.  I apologize but will be REMOVING COMMENTS asking me about the audio today since I have posted the reason for it already.  In addition to the accidentally changed setting part of today’s audio issue were the heavy rain pounding on the car.

Tune in today to hear me answer…

  • What will happen with the health care debate?  (please not NOT what I want to happen but what I think WILL HAPPEN and remember you guys asked, lots of you asked)
  • What does it mean if land is zoned “commercial” or more importantly when a commerical piece of land is selling WAY below market value, what can it teach us about buying land and real estate?
  • How the hell do you deal with squash groups?
  • Can social programs work at a very local government level?
  • What can you do for a garden if your yard is fully shaded?
  • Is it too late to start a garden in north for the fall, what crops are best for fall gardening?
  • What if someone owns the mineral rights to land you are considering buying?
  • What advice do I have for a person wanting to start up their own podcast?
  • How do you get your employer on board with disaster planning?
  • When it comes to green energy and food preps do the “ends justify the means”?

Resources for today’s show…

Remember to comment, chime in and tell us your thoughts, this podcast is one man’s opinion, not a lecture or sermon. Also please enter our listener appreciation contest and help spread the word about our show.

You also now can call in questions or comments for the host at 866-65-THINK, (866-658-4465) please read the suggestions for calling in before you do for the best chance of getting your comments on the air.