The only possible issue with pepper spray is that in some states, such as NY (the land of the ridiculous), you have to have a background check to buy it and if you have been convicted of a felony or assault you may not posses it.

It’s also illegal to posses a sligshot with a wrist brace. Makes all the sense in the world.

I believe that the man’s name was Nathan, I want you to really understand what you are asking yourself to do. After your training you are going to the war, no doubt no pretenses. Go to a very active gun range and stand immediately behind the firing line and close your eyes, imagine that you are walking through your neighborhood, and finally imagine the sound you hear is coming at you. The military will beat the living shit out of you to get you into the shape that you need to carry a 60 – 90 lb. ruck for 20 miles, you will live on your feet – not for a day or a week or through your training – the life of an infantryman is a hell of a lot of walking. Yes you will walk 20 miles to a truck that will take you down the road a piece and dump your ass out and you start humping some more. Now once your there some asshole starts shooting at you, he’s having so much damn fun his friends pitch in. Now if that don’t beat all there’s bound to be some asshole with an rpg willing to take a shot every now and again, oh and let’s not forget easter everyday when little brother stops by with a few grenades. Now I have described a scene from my past that part went on for about a second, but that firefight lasted three and a half hours. When they say life of sheer boredom with intermittent terror this is an example. On 12 September 2011, being disabled and still falling within the range for a vet to return to service I drove to the recruiters office and asked to rejoin, after a few cups of coffee and much discussion and with something stuck in his eye I was told that this old dog needed to set this one out.

Brother as a single man your choices effect everyone around you, but if you gamble and lose nobody is financially harmed (if you are prepared for that outcome). You are married your liberty is your own, but your life belongs to your family. Jack told you that the military is a young man’s game and with as much love as I can muster for your desires I do have to remind you that the time comes around that you need to sit this one out.

Shorty

RE: The Japanese rebuilding before the new WTC gets finished.

My 10th grade Latin teacher explained to the class one day the difference between the Greeks and the Romans. He said when the Greeks wanted to build a road, they appointed a committee to sit around and talk about it for 10 months. But when the Romans wanted to build a road, they went out and built a road.

Jack I do not so know anyone can condone putting people in cages and destroying their lives for a mala prohibita such as selling as selling cocaine. I was really shocked that someone with a brain that claims to love liberty could take this position.

Consider for a moment do you have the right to lock a neighbor in a cage for selling something that you do not approve of? If so then how do you delegate this right to your servants the government?

If your government has the right to make cocaine a crime to sell then obviously they also have the right to make selling raw milk a crime because they are merely protecting you from what they perceive as a danger.

In Liberty – Joe in Missouri

Jack perhaps the forums are a better place to have a protracted discussion. If someone on a free world wants pure drugs or whatever product I would be the last one to make them a criminal for buying such. For instance if you want only to put FDA drugs in your body I have not issue with you exercising that freedom. However I believe I have a God given right to choose to put anything in my body inspected or not inspected such as raw milk, range eggs, various herbs, or even cocaine. I should not be forced by my fellow man to buy only laboratory grade Merk cocaine if that is not my choice.

Thanks for your answer – This is not the place I would guess. I will look in to forums for comments on particular shows.

@Timothy Covington,

What you say is correct, and I did mention local trucking in combination with rail shipping.

Trucks are definitely important, but so is rail, and I see no reason they shouldn’t be seen as complimentary rather than competitive in most areas. As most people could probably confirm, many trains run with container loads which are easily transferred to trucks for local delivery.

My core point is that we all partially subsidize trucking as roads are (mostly) public compared to railroads that are (mostly) privately owned and maintained.

Here’s an interesting article to read. It relates to a felon having their rights restored. While not easy, it is at least worth a shot.

http://www.ehow.com/how-does_5188517_can-felon-receive-firearm-rights_.html

Two points Jack:

I can not for one justify two wrongs making a right. Such as the the wrong of us socializing health care justifying the wrong of outlawing drugs. That reasoning would also justify the taxation of potato chips, and forcing adults to wear bicycle helmets. Besides being wrong, which should be enough, we will forever be in the grip of “Liberty Gridlock” with that approach.

Selling is not necessarily commerce, if you study the original intent of the commerce clause. And is defiantly, not commerce as meant in the clause when State borders are not involved. The commerce clause is so twisted today that if you drive by a school with a firearm you become a felon and the Supreme court ruled that a farmer growing grain on his own property and feeding it to his own animals was in violation of it.

The Constitution does not need rewritten as much as it needs to be followed. Bedsides it is ultimately up to the sovereign and superior States to decide what the Constitution means and what to accept or reject. That is my position and that of Thomas Jefferson as voiced in what is called the rule of 98 (1898.

I enjoy your shows immensely Jack. Sometimes I find it hard to walk away from a heated debate and I apologize if I am do so.

glad you got down to setting straight how awful the abuse the poor bee woman suffered. that is disgusting!

Couple things I would like to add about protecting yourself without the ability to carry or possess a gun. I have talked to numerous Burglars (I work in the local Jail). Burglar alarms dont scare them the good ones already know what they want and where it is they are in and out before the Police arrive. But they all agree on one thing-THEY HATE DOGS! I was also going to suggest for the guy with the Felony on his record they do have expungements and pardons in most states so good advice on checking with a lawyer.

I would also recommend the book “The Truth about Self Protection” by Massad Ayoob. It’s a little dated in regards to some of the specifics, cell phones were not real common at the time of writing. It does give great information on home protection as a system and not just weapons. Things like doors, windows, alarms, dogs, ingress/egress points and many others. There’s some stuff on safe traveling and driving as well. The biggest point of the book in home defense is the system approach, relying soley on a gun means that if someone enters the home someone is getting hurt/killed, and not necessarily the person breaking in.

He recommends dogs from the yappy little alarm dogs up through the big tear off your arm dogs. Not attack dogs just dogs capable and willing to PROTECT. My Black and Tan Coonhound was as docile as any dog out there, in fact you could probably have broken into the house and stolen everything in it just as long as no one was there. It was not advisable to act threateningly towards me or the family if you valued your limbs.

Echoing an earlier comment: In most states blackpowder arms are still accessible to those with a non-violent felony on their record. Blackpowder shotguns are still quiet formidable, particularly at the distances found in one’s home.

@Jack

I could help do a show about alternative heating. You’ve got 1 email from my comments here. I’m also the same Jeff whose email you used in today’s show (about taxing our miles driven)… the email from that is different. Contact me at either one.

As for joining the military at an “advanced” age. I think Jack nailed it in the answer to some level. This really has to be something you really want to do. Basic Training is aimed at young people. It is not scaled for older people.

I was on the trail, a Drill Sgt, for three years at Ft. Leonard Wood MO. We normally had 180 to 240 soldiers per cycle. In each cycle we had on average two or three over the age of 28. these soldiers had problems almost all the time. Not all of them, just most. It was not that they could not learn or do what was expected but that they did not like being treated like a kid. Deep in side a 33 year old who had/has a full time job who paid bills and worked, would chafe at being directed around like a 17 year old in football camp.

They would look at the Drill Sgt and see not a soldier with 10 to 15 years of experience, but a person their age or younger who had not even completed an Associate Degree. Someone they “should” be on a first name basis with, not having to lock it up or do pushup’s to talk to. Often they feel, and this is not intentional on their part, that they should just be put in charge of part if not all of the training because they are the adult in the group.

This causes back talk, eye rolling, and results in corrective re-training. Add that to the stress of dealing with whinny teenagers (fellow soldiers at BCT) who just say and do dumb things. I personally think this is the biggest challenge for older enlisted soldiers at Basic.

As for Jack talking about the stress on the family, yes, no matter what the age. I’ve seen marriages of 19 years fall apart because the spouse was only there for 9 of those years, the rest was in the field. Even in peace time you do field training exercises (FTX’s) that can be for 30 to 90+ days. Try telling the wife that yes, even though you are just three miles away at TA-132 at Peason Ridge that you won’t be able to do more than send a letter every week for the next six weeks. And when you get back it will only be half a day on Sunday then two weeks of 18 hour days for recovery/clean up. Oh and in three months you have to start working late again as you will be heading to a training site in another state for 120 days of training. Oh, and we will be PCSing (moving to a new post) in nine months so you will have to attend all the departure briefings and arrange for clearing post and you should know where you’re going in three months but have to do BNCOC in route. Just 11 weeks in temp housing.

Military life is not easy, not even for the family.

Brutus

FYI — Lewis Merriweather (Lewis and Clark) carried one of those “NEWER” 50 cal air guns on their epic trip back in the early 1800’s.(200 years ago) — “There is very little new in the world except the history you do not know” 🙂

In the great state of stupid gun laws ie New York,where you cant buy pepper spray for your grandmother, you can buy black powder guns.Including black powder hand guns! Go figure.

I think ginseng would be a mistake unless you’ve got years and lots of cash, I’m talking about trying to grow it. Foraging for ginseng happens to be a very dangerous venture as many properties are covered with hidden cameras. You might also run across an illegal planting that can be booby-trapped, or worse yet guarded in which case you might find yourself dead.

I pretty shure that Federaly Black Powder guns are not considered a firearm. With a Howda style pistol you have basicly a side by side sawed-off 12 gage but black powder. I have seen a newer remake. Check local laws first. Also in a SHTF situation very sustainable.

@ Modern Survival
The question, would I do it again, I took as knowing what I know now and be back to that 17 y/o. I give my reasoning simply as I grew up never knowing my family, I was not an orphan, but for some reason became a ward of the state. I learned first hand what it was like to have no rights in the land of the free. One of my earliest dreams was to be an Army man and beat up anybody who stepped on people, I was 5. I went through life stepping between the bullies and the bunnies, as just because you can beat on someone doesn’t mean that you should AND I liked to fight. When I went into the Army and joined the 82nd Airborne my goal was to help those who needed help, to stand between those who would threaten and my people. I’m 50ish and disabled and I would put on a uniform today, my desire has always been to serve.

Having said all that, I know that I would be a liability to any uniform, but I still build trails, teach children to fish, go camping with my family. You see, thanks to Jack, my family and a hell of a lot of you folks I have learned to follow my heart. Prepping is not where it lays for me, so I’m simply stocking up for the next go round of classes (amazing how much extra you really need on hand) it all adds up to the same thing. As a good soldier my goal was to serve, same as now, I am a vet (old soldier) who volunteers (serves) and is disabled (beat up). Now I don’t fight as a soldier any more, but I fight everyday for our wild-spaces through my work, for our children every class (I make sure every child catches a fish).

So you see my brother I believe that I gave the answer, just not correctly and just so you know IF I here revile and my name called, I will step to and be counted.

Shorty