Episode-62- Solid Values in Firearms for the Survival Minded Individual

I have been on a real tear about the economy and the 700 Billion Dollar Bail Out, AIG Buyout, etc lately.  I decided it was time to shift gears and go into a totally different topic.  Today we will go over what I feel are a few of today’s best values in firearms for everything from collecting, to self defense to putting meat on the table.  I do still have a few things about the economy as well.

Please note I called the Auto Loan Bailout a 50 Billion dollar bail out, it is a 25 Billion Dollar Bail out at least in round one, they do plan to give them another 25 billion down the road.  Sorry for the error.

Tune in today to hear my thoughts on…

The Economy

  • While we focus on the 700 Billion the Congressional Clows drop 25 Billion on the Automakers to bail them out
  • My alternative plan yesterday was a “”better way to do it” not what we should do, no bail outs is the right answer
  • If it does fall, do you really know what it will be like?  Do the sheeple?  What will it mean?
  • Be careful what you wish for
  • Call your senators and congress clowns, tell them what you think, not what I think

On Values in Firearms

  • A bit on what exactly “surplus firearms” are
  • The Mosin Nagant M44 (awesome value under 100 bucks)
  • The Yugo SKS, still affordable if you want one buy now
  • The 303 Enfield, still some affordable ones around, outstanding quality
  • The Civilian Marksmanship Program at its’ requirements
  • The M1 Carbine is gone in the surplus market, missed opportunity!
  • The M1 Garand is still out there under 500 dollars via CMP
  • The 1917 Enfield in 30-06 get one while you can
  • The 1917 Barreled action 200 bucks for an amazing base to a custom sporter
  • The Savage Rifle perhaps the best value for the money in a new or used bolt action sporting rifle
  • HI Point is more then a “ghetto glock”
  • The Hi Point 995 and 4095 carbines, more fun then a barrel of monkeys
  • The Bersa Thunder 380 a cheap carry gun carried by off duty police officers (249 retail)
  • Affordable used 38 Specials at gun shows, try about 100 bucks!
  • The NEF/H&R Handi Rifle how about a 22 hornet, 30-06, 45-70 and 12 gauge on one frame for under 500 bucks
  • The Marlin Lever gun, looked for used ones they still usually have a life time of service in them
  • The Remington 870 Express, great deal, most popuplar and proven pump gun ever
  • The Mossberg pumps, another great option
  • Stay away from “tactical shotguns” – I explain why
  • Still a place for the single shot gun, brand new, 80 bucks and proven, safe and reliable

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10 Responses to Episode-62- Solid Values in Firearms for the Survival Minded Individual

  1. Jeez, Jack have you been rooting through my gun safe?

    Mosin-Nagant M44
    Yugo SKS
    Hi-Point Carbine 995
    Bersa Thunder .380

    And a Savage Model 64 .22. Not AccuTrigger, but close enough.

    Good show, nice to hear that you have some more prep show ideas down the pipe.

  2. Modern Survival

    Great shooting minds sling rounds from alike barrels. Or something like that.

    Yep more preps but I might have to do more on this damn bail out tomorrow. Bush was so full of it last night and I keep finding out more about how bad this is really going to be.

    This is like coldhaven called it, being punched with your own arm.

  3. my 1917 is bastardize…any one have a military
    stock for sale???.

  4. Mosin Nagant, Matte Black Stock, cut to carbine length (modernized somewhat)…
    http://www.centerfiresystems.com/RUS-ACT-PKG.aspx
    $99.99

    =-]

  5. All the firearms you spoke of today are fine weapons,Jack. I’m especially a fan of the Mosin Nagants and the SKS.
    Yopu spoke of the scope mounts that you can place in the sight base of the Mosins for a scout type setup.
    This is OK, but make sure the quality of ther mount is good. A friend of mine purchased one of those mounts from a gun show a few months ago. (I believe the brand was NCStar.) Unfortunatly, the set screws in the mount began to back out even with lock-tite and the scope could not hold Zero. The force of the blast from the M44 was just too much for it. After some heavy modification, my friend got the mount to work, but not before some serious aggravation.
    So just a warning for folks. Make sure the mount is good quality and you’ll be fine.

  6. MaryLouise Havens

    Love your podcast and your website!!! I received the following from a friend and would like to know your opinion……

    The Thomas J. Hoover Economic Solution

    Good afternoon my fellow Americans:

    I’m against the $85,000,000,000.00 bailout of AIG. Instead, I’m in favor of giving $85,000,000,000 to America in a We Deserve It Dividend.

    To make the math simple, let’s assume there are 200,000,000 bona fide US Citizens over the age of 18. Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- if you count every man, woman and child. So, 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at the adults 18 and up.

    So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billion; that equals $425,000.00. My plan is to give $425,000 to every person 18+ as a We Deserve It Dividend.

    Of course, it would NOT be tax free. So let’s assume a tax rate of 30%. Every individual 18+ has to pay $127,500.00 in taxes. That sends $25,500,000,000 right back to Uncle Sam.

    But it means that every adult 18+ has $297,500.00 in their pocket. A husband and wife will have $595,000.00. What would you do with $297,500.00 to $595,000.00 in your family?

    Pay off your mortgage – housing crisis solved; repay college loans – what a great boost to new grads; put away money for college – it’ll be there; save in a bank – create money to loan to entrepreneurs – bank crisis over; buy a new car – create jobs; invest in the market – capital drives growth; pay your parent’s medical insurance – health care improves; enable deadbeat dads to come clean – or else.

    0A

    Remember this is for every adult US Citizen 18 and over, including the folks who lost their jobs at Lehman Brothers and every other company that is cutting back. And, of course, for those serving in our Armed Forces.

    If we’re going to re-distribute wealth, let’s really do it: instead of trickling out a puny $1000.00 (“vote buy”) economic incentive that is being proposed by one of our candidates for President.

    If we’re going to do an $85 billion bailout, let’s bail out every adult US Citizen!

    As for AIG: liquidate it, sell off its parts. Let American General go back to being American General. Sell off the real estate. Let the private sector bargain hunters cut it up and clean it up.

    Here’s my rationale. We deserve it and AIG doesn’t. Sure it’s a crazy idea that can “never work.” But can you imagine the Coast-To-Coast Block Party!

    How do you spell Economic Boom?

    I trust my fellow adult Americans to know how to use the $85 Billion. We Deserve It Dividend more than the geniuses at AIG or in Washington DC.

    And remember, the Hoover plan only really costs $59.5 Billion because $25.5 Billion is returned instantly in taxes to Uncle Sam.

    Ahhh…I feel so much better getting that off my chest.
    Kindest personal regards,

  7. Good point about shooting a home invader with a “high speed – low drag” weapon like a M4 or a extended magazine trench gun. You’re probably going to have alot more explaining to do than you would if you’ve shot the invader with a spoting deer or bird gun. Remember you’re not shooting to kill but shooting to protect yourself and your family. If the invader dies in the process, it’s an occupational risk.

  8. That’s the good thing about Texas Castle Law. You have more rights when it comes to home defense now, regardless of which weapon you used. The advice about a hunting weapon used for home defense is sound though.

    One other thing someone who defends themselves should consider (for litigation purposes)…If it is safe to do so, you really should attempt to render aid. Yes, they just tried to rob you…but not all people are career criminals. There are people out there who are just desperate, there are people who are chemically altered or imbalanced and are just acting on impulse. Rendering aid to a gunshot victim can go a long way to your defense. Plus, IMO, it is just good humanity. =-]

  9. On the Hi-Points, my wife and I have gone through two of them. They are both at about 2K rounds and are both having light primer strike issues from what looks like a galled firing pin channel. Apparently a steel pin ramming through a pot metal channel has a limited life cycle. Other than not always shooting when I’d like them to, and have some rather interesting malfunctions on WWB ammo, I’ve been happy with them. I’d recommend them to somebody who simply can’t afford better, but I’d also recommend against them for anybody who can afford better. I’ve done a long winded review of my Hi-Points with the link above.

  10. I’m not a huge fan of the 870 configuration. I like the Mossberg configuration slightly more (although I wish there was a combination of the two). But for those who prefer the 870 and are looking for a solid bargain, consider the china knockoff that sells for ~$150. Everybody I’ve come across that has owned one has said they were great, and are part for part compatible with 870 accessories.