Note – I have brought these around today because people keep telling me that you can’t get them any more. It sure seems you can. Delivery times are posted pretty far out, but see the PS in this write up for both some mitigation to that and for a few alternatives.
Every day I bring you an item on Amazon that I personally use or has been purchased by many members of the audience and I have researched enough to recommend.
Today’s TSP Amazon Item of the day is Barrina LED Grow Light 6 Packs. I have been recommending the Kingbo Grow Lights for a few years now. I recommended them for starting seeds not growing out plants. They are great for that, thousands of them have been purchased for that purpose, I have not had any complaints.
They do have their limits though. Chiefly they need to be VERY close to the plants, if you do that they can even do a decent job growing plants to a decent size. Again though they are limited, as I have always said. I have been looking for a new light to start recommending for the same purpose (seed starting) yet with more power so you can fully grow with them as well.
It simply stands to reason that after three years time now tech should have gotten better and we should be able to get something better for about the same price. It looks like we can get something a LOT better for a LOT less which is frankly awesome. I have been trialing these new lights for a few weeks now and I am blown away. The bang for the buck is amazing. I used them to build an indoor seed starting system based on Kratky Style Hydroponics (as seen in the videos below) For that I used 2 six packs of the 2 foot lights. These lights come in two options for length, they are…
Compare that to the old Kingbo’s which are a single 45 watt light for 27.99 or (62 cents a watt), but it gets better. First the Kingbo’s are square, at about 1 foot square it takes 2 to light a 2 foot shelf and 4 to light a four foot shelf. The Barina’s are shaped like a T8 fixture, so you can use two of them to light a shelf of the same length. Meaning the 6 pack of either would fully light three shelves of equivalent length. (At two per shelf, keep in mind I am using three to a shelf in my system.) Next up they Barnia’s daisy chain link so you can have all 6 of them running on one timed outlet with out a bazillion cords to manage. This is the timer I recommend for that.
While the Kingbo’s are a fine light for what they are I can’t recommend them as a new purchase any longer. I also do not believe Kingbo’s actually put out 45 watts of light. Even running three lights to a shelf the way I am, the Barina’s cost 30-40 dollars per two foot shelf, vs. 56 for the Kingbo lights. The growth I am getting with three to a shelf is amazing. Some of my starts are damn well big enough to just eat at this point.
I coupled them with this great little mini greenhouse indoor shelf system and whether you want to do hydro or conventional starting for 30 bucks it is hard to beat the price on it. But any shelf system will do. I have a large 4 foot shelf in my outbuilding and I am thinking about getting a set of 4 foot lights and setting it up as well. I will say if you get the mini green house and run 3 lights to a shelf like I am, you likely won’t want to close it up, it gets pretty warm in there running a total of 12 lights.
One hack on my system I want to do when the current run of starts is over is to get a big concrete mixing tray like this one here. The shelf in my system fits perfectly into one, that way any leaks or condensation drip is caught and stays off the rug.
Here is my view on what these lights represent. For the past 5 years LED lights have been getting better and better, especially high end commercial ones used for things like vertical farming. That market is now globally a multi billion dollar market. While these lights are not as good as those used in commercial operations, I feel like they are just about one tier below them, and likely as good as the best thing you could buy 2-3 years ago, for a fraction of the cost. My seed starting system could be improved or modified to be a food production system, tune in to todays show (episode 2573) and I will discuss some ideas about that in the TspAz segment at the end of the show.
Anyway if you have Kingbo’s don’t get rid of them, use them for what they are good for, but if you are looking to expand, grow indoors, start seeds, etc. I say give the Barrina Lights a chance, they will save a ton of money and my results so far are exceptional.
P.S. – Again, people keep saying you can’t get these lights.
- You can, you can order the 2 and 4 foot options right now. The stated delivery is May 14th if you don’t have prime. But when you log in with Prime you see delivery as of May 6th. That is not bad.
- Really don’t take longer delivery times on Amazon at face value especially if you live in a major US Market. See this post for some examples of actual stated delivery times and when I am actually getting things. I can’t say this is true in all markets but I have yet to wait more than 5 days for anything on Amazon since this all started as long as the item was in stock.
- If they actually do sell out at some point, I am 99.9% convinced these 4 foot lights by Byingo are the exact same lights. The Barrina lights are the best deal I have found and I love them. But this is not patented tech, the same lights are being marketed from different brands. This seems like one of them, but they have 4 foot ones only. Note stated delivery times are not any better than Barrina, again I refer you to point two.
- I believe these lights are the same as the ones in this color from Barrina. No they are not the cool space age pink color but they are full spectrum and if I needed 2 footers and could not get Barrina’s I would not hesitate to buy them. I mean Barrina makes them in this color too. They are actually not available at this time. I like the pink ones as a first choice only because all the light is “what plants crave” but the other lights still have everything you need. They may not be quite as efficient but they are certainly not deficient in anything.
- Again I would use any light that is a price I am okay with that appears to be the same lights. You can just search Amazon for 2 Foot LED Grow Lights or 4 Foot LED Grow Lights and look at the form factor. All this stuff comes from China. The factory making them will sell them to anyone who wants to market them. The odds two independent products have the exact same form factor, exact same wattage, exact same accessories, etc. are very low. So don’t fear substituting here. Just look for the same form factor, 4 or 6 count, same specs and it is 99% in this day and age the same light. But again, don’t think a two week delivery time is really a two week delivery time for any in stock item on Amazon right now, again see this post to learn more. Just order the Barrina’s in my opinion unless they actually say “out of stock” or “in stock on” you are pretty likely to see them within 5 days time. I will talk more about identifying “clone products” in general in today’s TSPAZ segment, it is good thing to be aware of for a lot of stuff.
- Last I think a source of confusion is Barrina seems to have removed the 4 pack option from their line up, they have also upped the price of the 6 packs. That price is still stupid cheap! Consider one light meeting these specs two years ago would have been about 40-60 dollars. That is per individual light. Getting 6 two footers for 70 bucks or 6 four footers for 115 is still a heck of a deal. I removed the links to the four packs to prevent further confusion. I also adjusted the pricing to reflect the current cost.
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Here are the two playlists showing to of my set ups, check the growth in these systems…