Episode-728- Personal Liberty and Actionable Garden Intelligence

Two we have a two part episode.  In the first part I discuss more about Jan Cline and a progress report on what the TSP audience has done so far.  As of this morning Jan had received over 16,000 and the TSP community by my best count has chipped in over 5,000 of that 16K.

Additionally we discuss personal liberty and why standing up in situations like this is important for everyone’s liberty including our own.  I am also asking you to call the Mayor of Salem Oregon today and tell her what a waiver is!  She stated that they are “looking for a solution to the problem are trying to find some commercial property she can use for her sales”.  Only politicians are stupid enough to see this as a solution.

Apparently this mayor thinks it is okay to expect a woman so riddled with bone cancer to carry her stuff to some “commercial property”.  A woman so riddled with cancer that in her own words, “I could break my leg by walking”.

Personally I feel that at this point that Jan won’t need the sales anymore.  Her real hope though was, “I hope no one else ever has to go through this”.  Well we have come together to help Jan financially now today let us come together to make that wish come true at least in Salem.  Please call the mayor and explain to her that she could and should fix this in 5 minutes with a waiver if she had courage to use her power to do just that.  You can find contact information for Salem’s mayor here.

In part two of the show we discuss the lessons I have learned with my bag and container gardens this year.

Some of the things I  have learned this year…

  • Mason wasps are cool
  • Red wasps patrol your plants looking for prey
  • Cope’s Gray Frogs like dog dishes and blossoms for mini ponds
  • Green anoles are very prolific
  • Swifts and skinks like wood and rock piles
  • Black ants may kill squash vine borers (not sure yet)
  • Bag gardening works great you just have to water often
  • Watermelons grow beautifully in my area

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19 Responses to Episode-728- Personal Liberty and Actionable Garden Intelligence

  1. Bridgette Brown

    I called the Mayor’s office in Salem at 1:30 pm today. A very friendly woman answered, I asked if the mayor planned on signing a waiver on behalf of Ms. Jane and she said that lot’s of people have reached out and so far she had raised 19,000. I said that had nothing to do with the Mayor’s office right? She almost tried to take credit for the outreach…what a pig…

  2. Hi Jack,

    Just discovered your podcast a couple of weeks ago and have been listening to it ever since. I’m from Holland, but most of the topics you discuss are also relevant for people living here, so i’m spreading the word as much as possible., so you’ll prolly get some more dutchies in the coming weeks :-)

    Not like some others in the audience, I happen to like your bursts of anger about stupid assclownsand just thought…. maybe, if you have the time for it, you could seperate those out into their own podcast. Doesn’t have to be an hour long, just a couple of minutes a day is great as well :-). Include a little teaser into the SurvivalPodcast and i´m sure that podcast will take off as well

    Keep up the good work!

  3. Jack, I know what you mean by hating tomato horn worms. I had never seen one before. In one day, one horn worm destroyed a 8 foot row of tomatos.

  4. I made a call today and talked to someone for a while. I got the point across without using a cuss word! An accomplishment for how I feel! Also send an email just to add my email to a list of emails. I don’t always agree with you and your views but on this one I am 100% with you my friend!

  5. I discovered this year that tomato horn worms will also eat potato and tomatillo plants.

  6. I called. Talked to “jessey”. Gave him my thoughts respectfully. I hope it made a fraction of a difference. Thank you jack. You have done more than you will ever know.

  7. Did anyone see the letter in Mother Earth News about hornworms (Aug/Sept, pg 109)? Some woman said that hornworms didn’t actually eat the tomatoes, just a few leaves and what’s the harm in that. We shouldn’t kill them, we should just let them be.
    Apparently this woman has never actually seen a hornworm!
    We probably pulled 2-3 dozen off our plants last year. The damage was so bad we initially thought deer had eaten them!! I strongly dislike tomato hornworms.

    • Modern Survival

      @Britni,

      Yea saw that letter and just rolled my eyes. It is probably true for her, the problem is many people don’t understand that what is true one place may not be in others. When I was a kid in PA we grew huge plants, I would cut 7-8 foot stakes for them and they still outgrew them. The vines were huge diameters way bigger around than my thumb. Hornworms showed up and we tossed em to the chickens but they did very little real damage. The plants grew so fast they really didn’t do much harm.

      She probably has a climate and soil such as I did there. To be fair the pepper that worm pruned to nothing came back and is doing better today than the one next to it. The claim though that they don’t eat tomatoes is flat dead wrong. They love em, green, red it don’t matter.

      A good play is plant dill near your tomatoes. Hornworms relish dill and go to it first, they are easy to see and dill grows back so fast they can’t hurt it. If you have hens and toss a big one to your flock the fighting and running around gluttony makes them almost worth having around.

  8. Okay, as if I weren’t excited enough at the prospects of moving to SE OK -A GARDEN WITH HARDLY ANY PESTS!!! (Tomato hornworms I can handle; they show up one at a time.)

    I have over 2 dozen lettuce/arugula plants that will be planted out starting in 2 wks, and am now starting a batch once a week. Can’t wait to get the fall garden going. But I hope the drought breaks by then…

  9. I would love to see every single resident in Salem hold their own yard sale and give the proceeds to Jan. In fact hold 4 yard sales they can’t fine everyone! Or can they? Lol

  10. great show today Jack really enjoyed it, keep it up..

  11. I was out walking and listening to the show this sunday so I called that number, but it being sunday I had to leave a message. I said pretty close to word for word as I can remember:

    This is so and so from the east coast, calling about the woman with bone cancer. As you may realize, this has gotten some attention on the internet. She is unable to walk or take advantage of commercial property. I believe the appropriate thing to do is to issue a waiver. I am not familiar with all aspects of the case, but there is a difference between the intent of the law, the spirit of the law and the letter of the law. Presidents are able to issue pardons. I believe that this particular case warrants such considerations and it is the christian thing, and the compassionate thing to do and I wanted to express that ..

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    I learned something from the garden this year. The ground cherries are ripening better this year than last and I don’t know why it is, but last year alot of them never ripened. It was not cold last year, but less rain, a bit drought like ..

  12. Stuck in Connecticut

    I had three Hornworms this year. The first one I found, I plucked off and squished. The next two I found were COVERED in the wasp eggs. I cut the piece of vine that they were sitting on and placed them in the pile of other tomato clippings. I would have crushed them as I well, but I remembered hearing a past episode of TSP and was able to identify the strange white bumps as the wasp eggs. I removed the worm from the plant, but let nature run its course on the worms, encouraging the presence of natural predators. Prior to listening to your show, I would have covered my plants in pesticides. Thanks for teaching me about the importance of a balanced ecosystem!

  13. Jack I just started my fall garden in Conway.

    So far got brussels, broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage, carrots, peas. turnips, parsnips started.

    Still to do (hopefully this week): beets, carrots, leeks, bok choy

    Still to do later when it cools off: all kinds of greens, lettuce, etc

    The brussels, broc, all that stuff are transplants. I’m hoping the sun and heat won’t kil them and we’ll get some let up soon. I need to go get some straw for mulch to help keep the soil moist and cool.

  14. Jack,
    I wish you would do a show focused on gardening in a drought. Live in central Texas and just about everything I planted that thrived in previous years died. Even my fruit trees died, with watering them often. They and my garden were scorched by the 70+ days of 100 plus temps with no rain so far. I will be using shade cloth and screens a lot next year, hugels, drip irrigation, and any edible plants I can get my hands on that grow well in arrid climates. This would make a great show. In fact, you could probably devote a week to it.

  15. Jack;
    FYI – each of my family of 4 sent an email to Mayor’s office asking for waiver for Jan.

  16. Hey Jack! I’m a couple of days behind on the podcast and just came across this one.

    Regarding your squash vine borers, ants eat the eggs. :)

    Flycatchers, barn swallows, downy woodpeckers, sparrows, blackbirds, grackles, and phoebes are some of the common birds that relish eating squash vine borers and the mother moths. Moles and toads will also go after borers. Wasp parasites kill the larvae and lacewings, spiders and ants eat the eggs.