Episode-486- Guest Host Chip Monk on Survival Firearms

Since I am on vacation one of our long time listeners named “Chip Monk” volunteered to do a guest show.  Today he covers Firearms for the End of the World as we Know it.  I thought it was really good so he is pinch hitting for me today while I am on vacation.

Notes are exceedingly brief due to the fact that this is a guest show but you really should check out the thread on our forum that led to his book and this episode.

“Firearms for TEOTWAWKI”-(PDF Book Under Construction)

Note – This is a long podcast and you may want to listen to it about 50% today and 50% tomorrow because there won’t be an episode tomorrow ask I will be on the road some where in Tennessee or Arkansas.

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19 Responses to Episode-486- Guest Host Chip Monk on Survival Firearms

  1. One other bolt action you might want to consider that is cheaper than the Savage 110 is the Stevens 200. These are Savage’s budget line. The only real difference is color of stock (gray or tan instead of black) and they don’t have the accutrigger (Savage’s adjustable trigger).

  2. Thanks for the idea about the Stevens 200. I’m not as familiar with them, although I have seen them for sale at sporting good stores and they look like interesting options.
    BTW… Pinch-hitting for Jack was fun and inspired me to start my own podcast geared towards “Family Survival”. It can be found here: http://chipmonk.podbean.com/ If you’re a firearms junkie, I’ve also done two more episodes on gun topics: Here: http://chipmonk.podbean.com/2010/08/01/mini-episode-1-lever-actions-rifles-for-survival/ and http://chipmonk.podbean.com/2010/08/01/mini-episode-5-the-sks-carbine-a-survival-bargain/
    🙂

  3. Robert Martin

    Chip maybe a little too general. People get a .22 rifle, a 12 or 20 ga, any quality handgun in a caliber used by the police/military. a pair of 223 or 308 rifles (semiauto for security,scoped bolt gun for hunting/long range security). The 308 has the edge if hunting is a priority. Don’t use varmint bullets in the 223, except for practice. Get reloading equipment.

    You will never have enough ammo if TEOTWAWKI happens. Don’t keep it all in the same place. Buy ammo, not too many guns and practice, practice.

  4. Hey Robert,
    Yeah, it was hard striking the right balance between being too general and provide some specifics. For most people it seems that a basic 4-gun setup would cover 95% of what they might ever need them for. And even that setup can be purchased for pretty cheap if someone looks around enough. Your basic advice is pretty spot on, in my opinion. 🙂

  5. Not sure if the original post I made in response to Tim’s post made it up or not. Basically, I wanted to provide a link to my new podcast at: http://chipmonk.podbean.com/ for anyone who might be interested. 🙂

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  7. Chip, I enjoyed a lot of your podcast. My husband has a well-stocked arsenal and we’re shopping for a handgun for me right now. Could I make a suggestion, though (actually, a couple of suggestions)? First, break this down into about four podcasts, because at times it felt like you were rushing to get through everything. You’re voice is pleasant to listen to, so more podcasts would not be a hardship.

    Second, please make an effort to define some of the terminology for rank newbies like me. People who are familiar with firearms understand “the lingo,” and slip into using it naturally, but I had to Google “.45 ACP” to figure out what “ACP” stood for because you kept using that term. (Husband wasn’t around so I couldn’t ask him.) It’s a lot to learn in a short period of time. I am sure that once I get through the required reading list that the husband gave me, listening to this podcast again might make a lot more sense. I’m interested and I want to learn, but my entire firearms experience so far consists of shooting beer cans with a .22.

    While I am asking for the moon, a podcast on the different calibers would be terrific, too.

    I’ve probably embarrassed myself forever with these requests, but I figure the only dumb questions are the ones you don’t ask. Thanks again for taking the time to do the podcast.

  8. Note from a thankful offshore foreigner to Chipmunk: if there were such a thing as a “defensive pistol” (or rifle) as you kept alleging ad nauseam in your podcast, your NRA slogan: – Guns don´t kill people, people kill people – would make no sense. Because if all pistols are defensive as such, there can be no aggression with pistols. So your Second Amendment-type propaganda is as obvious as calling your Ministry for War “Department of Defense”. In the old days, imperial powers, eg the British, were more honest in their wording.

    Secondly, your infantile American Christian useage of “bad guys” implies that anyone you shoot is morally deserving of the death you hand out to him, because calling him “bad” makes you feel better. So check out “The Road” by US author Cormac McCarthy, in which the “good guy”, played by Viggo Mortensen in the movie, kills the starving hobo through hypothermia, because it is dog eat dog TEOTWAWKI.

  9. Modern Survival

    @Jacobin,

    Personally you sound like a typical gun hater to me. I really don’t get your point overall but if you think the second amendment is “propaganda” please remain off shore.

    Of course a pistol can be defensive, it is all about who owns it. Further if anyone breaks into my home, he qualifies as a “bad guy” not to make me feel better about blowing his brains onto my drywall but because he has no business being in my home against my will. I assume this “bad guy” means me harm because he has invaded my home. So I take defensive action and give him a free life time membership in the dirt nap society. If you don’t like that reality or the reality of a woman being raped killing the bastard trying to do so or a old lady blowing the guts out of a douche bag robbing her, tough shit.

    Humans have a right to self defense, that is what our constitution is all about. Like it or not it applies to you and all humans. Only fear of people by government prevents that universal truth from being present in other nations.

    So you can take your dissatisfaction with our gun laws in the US and shove em up your 4th point of contact. In this nation we mean it when we say “from our cold dead hands”, that ain’t propaganda friend, it is a promise.

  10. Janet-
    I apologize for slipping into “gun talk” at times, as I was trying to keep things general and understandable to folks without much background with firearms but am still learning the whole podcast thing.
    I would be happy to provide further information on calibers, etc. if Jack every needs another “fill in” episode. In the short term, you might re-listen to one of his previous episodes where he does cover quite a bit of ground on that topic:
    http://www.thesurvivalpodcast.com/ballistics-and-ammunition-components
    Jacobin-
    You are certainly entitled to your opinion, sir, and I recognize there exist many other differing viewpoints about firearms ownership in other countries, especially those without a Constitutionally-protected right for citizens to own such devices. However much I might have sounded like a “American Christian gun nut” since I talked about firearms for 1 hr and 40 minutes on this episode, I’m really not. They’re a tool to accomplish certain tasks and that’s where they have value for me. (NOTE: For purposes of clarification I would define a “bad guy” as someone who wants to do harm to me or my family in horrible and unspeakable ways. Even animals have a built-in instinct to protect those they love, and especially in the current days of massive police layoffs, people have the right or even obligation to thoughtfully determine ways to keep those they care about safe. I am fortunate to still live in a country where I can have a wide range of “defensive tools” available and while I hope to NEVER have to do so, I would do whatever it takes to save the lives of my family. If that’s wrong in this modern age of enlightened thought, then I admit to being a Cro-Magnon throwback.)

  11. Thanks, Chip. I would vote for you to “fill in” again. I’ll go listen to Jack’s podcast. Thanks for the link.

  12. Jacobin,
    the term “defensive” refers to the tool’s primary purpose not what it can do. Take an automobile for instance, it is transportation but it could be used as a 2,00lb deadly weapon. We don’t call cars offensive weapons as common parlance now do we? If some dirtbag is trying to kidnap my children, or rape/kill my wife then he is a “bad guy”. If I do not have the ability to properly restrain that individual and he/she continues to be a threat then that “bad guy” will be dealt with in an expedient manner to protect my safety and the safety of those I am responsible for. He will not continue to make those bad choices.
    If you choose to be a victim you are actually hurting society by allowing those who choose to do harm to hurt others. How would you feel if that “bad guy” who broke into your house while you did nothing went next door and raped and killed a 6yo girl? You could have helped that kid but you chose to be a coward/

  13. TheMidwesterner

    @Jacobian

    On this topic, it appears to me that you either did not become educated before commenting, or failed to pay attention to your educational materials.

    In line with what BUB said, “defensive” is a category describing the firearm’s primary purpose. Not all handguns are defensive. The defensive firearm is intended primarily for (quite simply) defense whereas the working firearm is primarily for hunting. Chip makes this distinction very clearly at the beginning of the episode. The primary purpose of the brick is as a building material, yet many have ended up being used to shatter a window or batter a person. Does this mean that bricks should be labeled as aggressive?

    You may also want to watch The Road again and/or reread the book. As I recall, in both, the boy convinces the man to leave the thief his clothes, so he will not freeze to death, because even at TEOTWAWKI, compassion has a place – even if it is for the person that just tried to take food from the mouth of your child.

  14. Nice first try Chip – keep it up.

  15. Jacobin, you clearly don’t get it. Well said Jack…

  16. Spot on Jack. I read his post more than 10 minutes ago and I’m still shaking my head…

  17. Great show, Chip. I really enjoyed listening to it – while taking inventory of and reorganizing my ammo to boot. You’ve given me some things to think about.

    @Jacobin – you’re entitled to your opinion, but please be a little more polite when you want help escaping from serfdom down the road someday.

  18. FYI: Koreans did fire shots at rioters during the LA riots (it is on film on youtube) and charges were not filed due to CA PC 197. No gun owner in CA should go to sleep until they have read that section.