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Episode-2783- Listener Calls for 12-1-20 — 12 Comments

  1. Re: The “You won’t own anything and you’ll be happy” narrative

    Those in Mongolia’s capital who operate this way are getting f***ed big time right now. We’ve been going through our own BS lockdown for 3 weeks now (government screwed up in their isolation/quarantine management… what a shock), and the merchants & people who largely rent, lease, or make payments on their storefronts/stalls, vehicles, & apartments are getting hurt the hardest. Most are not allowed to do business so income is throttled, and even with some loan deferment mandates many are still on the hook for the payments at the same time. And naturally, those in this situation are mostly the smaller businesses & merchants and people with modest incomes, not the big companies. Those of us who own our dwellings and business properties and additional revenue streams have so much more cushion than those poor souls.

    IMO, the “You won’t own anything and you’ll be happy” line is the marketing gimmick for the debt-serf endgame. It reminds me of the WorryFree corporation from the funny, dystopian movie “Sorry To Bother You”, where people are enticed into essentially signing themselves into a moderately-well-cared-for version of permanent slavery with marketing something like “no more hassles like rent & making ends meet, we take care of everything for you”.

    I’m not sure how much success they’ll ultimately have pushing this narrative, but I have zero doubt many powerful people want it and also have zero doubt it will mean less prosperity for those buying into it.

    • “I’m not sure how much success they’ll ultimately have pushing this narrative”

      historically, quite a bit. the confiscations are sold as a way of preserving the people, but are then used to enslave the people.

      genesis 41:25 “Now Joseph said to Pharaoh, “Pharaoh’s [x]dreams are one and the same; God has told to Pharaoh what He is about to do. 26 The seven good cows are seven years; and the seven good ears are seven years; the [y]dreams are one and the same. 27 The seven lean and ugly cows that came up after them are seven years, and the seven thin ears scorched by the east wind will be seven years of famine. 28 [z]It is as I have spoken to Pharaoh: God has shown to Pharaoh what He is about to do. 29 Behold, seven years of great abundance are coming in all the land of Egypt; 30 and after them seven years of famine will [aa]come, and all the abundance will be forgotten in the land of Egypt, and the famine will [ab]ravage the land. 31 So the abundance will be unknown in the land because of that subsequent famine; for it will be very severe. 32 Now as for the repeating of the dream to Pharaoh twice, it means that the matter is determined by God, and God will quickly bring it about. 33 Now let Pharaoh look for a man discerning and wise, and set him over the land of Egypt. 34 Let Pharaoh take action to appoint overseers [ac]in charge of the land, and let him exact a fifth of the produce of the land of Egypt in the seven years of abundance. 35 Then let them gather all the food of these good years that are coming, and store up the grain for food in the cities under Pharaoh’s authority, and let them guard it. 36 Let the food become as a reserve for the land for the seven years of famine which will occur in the land of Egypt, so that the land will not perish during the famine.” … 53 When the seven years of plenty which had been in the land of Egypt came to an end, 54 and the seven years of famine began to come, just as Joseph had said, then there was famine in all the lands, but in all the land of Egypt there was bread. 55 So when all the land of Egypt was famished, the people cried out to Pharaoh for bread; and Pharaoh said to all the Egyptians, “Go to Joseph; whatever he says to you, you shall do.” 56 When the famine was spread over all the face of the earth, then Joseph opened all [av]the storehouses, and sold to the Egyptians; and the famine was severe in the land of Egypt. 57 The people of all the earth came to Egypt to buy grain from Joseph, because the famine was severe in all the earth … genesis 47:13 Now there was no [s]food in all the land, because the famine was very severe, so that the land of Egypt and the land of Canaan languished because of the famine. 14 Joseph gathered all the money that was found in the land of Egypt and in the land of Canaan for the grain which they bought, and Joseph brought the money into Pharaoh’s house. 15 When the money was all spent in the land of Egypt and in the land of Canaan, all the Egyptians came to Joseph [t]and said, “Give us [u]food, for why should we die in your presence? For our money [v]is gone.” 16 Then Joseph said, “Give up your livestock, and I will give you food for your livestock, since your money [w]is gone.” 17 So they brought their livestock to Joseph, and Joseph gave them [x]food in exchange for the horses and the [y]flocks and the herds and the donkeys; and he [z]fed them with [aa]food in exchange for all their livestock [ab]that year. 18 When that year was ended, they came to him the [ac]next year and said to him, “We will not hide from my lord that our money is all spent, and the [ad]cattle are my lord’s. There is nothing left [ae]for my lord except our bodies and our lands. 19 Why should we die before your eyes, both we and our land? Buy us and our land for [af]food, and we and our land will be slaves to Pharaoh. So give us seed, that we may live and not die, and that the land may not be desolate.” 20 So Joseph bought all the land of Egypt for Pharaoh, for [ag]every Egyptian sold his field, because the famine was severe upon them. Thus the land became Pharaoh’s. 21 As for the people, he removed them to the cities from one end of Egypt’s border to the other.”

      • When you publish a garbled giant text block like that rest assured NO ONE READS IT. Even if it is valid and good, no one reads it. Learn what a paragraph break is.

        • “Even if it is valid and good, no one reads it.”

          yeah, never understood that. how’s this?

          Genesis 41:25

          “Now Joseph said to Pharaoh, ‘Pharaoh’s dreams are one and the same; God has told to Pharaoh what He is about to do. The seven good cows are seven years; and the seven good ears are seven years; the dreams are one and the same. The seven lean and ugly cows that came up after them are seven years, and the seven thin ears scorched by the east wind will be seven years of famine. It is as I have spoken to Pharaoh: God has shown to Pharaoh what He is about to do. Behold, seven years of great abundance are coming in all the land of Egypt; and after them seven years of famine will come, and all the abundance will be forgotten in the land of Egypt, and the famine will ravage the land. So the abundance will be unknown in the land because of that subsequent famine; for it will be very severe. Now as for the repeating of the dream to Pharaoh twice, it means that the matter is determined by God, and God will quickly bring it about.

          “‘Now let Pharaoh look for a man discerning and wise, and set him over the land of Egypt. Let Pharaoh take action to appoint overseers in charge of the land, and let him exact a fifth of the produce of the land of Egypt in the seven years of abundance. Then let them gather all the food of these good years that are coming, and store up the grain for food in the cities under Pharaoh’s authority, and let them guard it. Let the food become as a reserve for the land for the seven years of famine which will occur in the land of Egypt, so that the land will not perish during the famine.’

          “When the seven years of plenty which had been in the land of Egypt came to an end, and the seven years of famine began to come, just as Joseph had said, then there was famine in all the lands, but in all the land of Egypt there was bread. So when all the land of Egypt was famished, the people cried out to Pharaoh for bread; and Pharaoh said to all the Egyptians, ‘Go to Joseph; whatever he says to you, you shall do.’

          “When the famine was spread over all the face of the earth, then Joseph opened all the storehouses, and sold to the Egyptians; and the famine was severe in the land of Egypt. The people of all the earth came to Egypt to buy grain from Joseph, because the famine was severe in all the earth …”

          Genesis 47:13

          “Now there was no food in all the land, because the famine was very severe, so that the land of Egypt and the land of Canaan languished because of the famine.

          “Joseph gathered all the money that was found in the land of Egypt and in the land of Canaan for the grain which they bought, and Joseph brought the money into Pharaoh’s house. When the money was all spent in the land of Egypt and in the land of Canaan, all the Egyptians came to Joseph and said, ‘Give us food, for why should we die in your presence? For our money is gone.’ Then Joseph said, ‘Give up your livestock, and I will give you food for your livestock, since your money is gone.’ So they brought their livestock to Joseph, and Joseph gave them food in exchange for the horses and the flocks and the herds and the donkeys; and he fed them with food in exchange for all their livestock that year.

          “When that year was ended, they came to him the next year and said to him, ‘We will not hide from my lord that our money is all spent, and the cattle are my lord’s. There is nothing left for my lord except our bodies and our lands. Why should we die before your eyes, both we and our land? Buy us and our land for food, and we and our land will be slaves to Pharaoh. So give us seed, that we may live and not die, and that the land may not be desolate.’

          “So Joseph bought all the land of Egypt for Pharaoh, for every Egyptian sold his field, because the famine was severe upon them. Thus the land became Pharaoh’s. As for the people, he removed them to the cities from one end of Egypt’s border to the other.”

          heh. he bought them with their own food that he took from them. just like now.

        • Because it is hard to read a giant block of text on a screen. Yes that is better, I still won’t read it but someone might now.

      • Some aspects of human behavior and social conditioning don’t change much over the centuries. Yet at the same time, the Egyptians didn’t have the Internet or cryptocurrency either. This time the knowledge and tools are within easy reach. Many will stay ignorant and dutifully watch their propaganda news/social-media outlet of choice, yet many others will have that seed of knowledge & skepticism germinate within them AND NOW have better tools & information to explore that growth.

        This is a cycle. Just because there will be a trend towards greater tyranny in this generation doesn’t mean we can’t to some degree protect ourselves and use & preserve these tools & knowledge to plant the seeds that will swing the cycle back to balance in the next generation. I personally found Isaac Asimov’s “Foundation” series that I read a while back helpful in entertaining this cyclical concept of history.

  2. Your segment on countereconomics was good, but i think you didn’t go far enough. If I give you dandelion wine in consideration for fixing my carburetor, that has elements of a contract and is a taxable barter exchange. But if I have a friend who I give dandelion wine to every year, and he happens to work on cars and helps me for free when I need it, that has more the character of a gift exchange which is not taxable until you get in the range of $15000 per person (it varies year to year). Circular 230 notice: this discussion is of a general nature and is not tax advice that can be used to avoid tax penalties. Also, I am not a lawyer.

  3. “I went to Church in a Chevy.” I have been trying to explain to my husband why, when I am unhappy, I take my car and roam the backroads through the rolling hills. This. This song. Thanks for everything you do.

  4. Regarding the segment about unintended consequences of COVID, my Mother suffered from a heart attack in November of 2019. We, as lay people, would have called it mild since she was still conscious and was just having trouble breathing. She was scheduled for follow-up testing and therapy but this was cancelled with the advent of COVID. In March she suffered another attack but unfortunately my parents didn’t recognize the symptoms of a second heart attack and didn’t seek medical attention. She suffered a third episode in May and my Father called 911. The EMT’s confirmed that she was having a heart attack and took her to the hospital. But due to COVID restrictions my Father wasn’t allowed to accompany her. That evening he had a conference call with my Mother and the attending physician where they declined a surgical stint and opted for a drug induced stint (Don’t ask me how that works). At 3AM my Father received a call from the hospital informing him that his bride of 65 years had passed from another heart attack.
    My mother died, alone, without the aide or comfort of her husband or family, because some bureaucrat thought it was safer to cancel her “unnecessary” follow up treatment for cardiac arrest, just in case there was a surge on medical faculties for COVID.
    She won’t be classified as a COVID death since she didn’t die directly due to COVID but she did die because of the stupid, uninformed policies politicians imposed. How many more deaths are there like my Mother’s. How many people died from the unintended consequences of these COVID shutdowns. I know of at least one.

    • Glad I did not read this and hear that call on the same day, my head my have exploded. I am sorry your family had to deal with this. It is long past time we take our nation back.

  5. On your rant about the unintended consequences of Covid-19, I was yelling to no one “exactly!”.

    Through this whole thing I have been amazed at how many cowards there are. It’s been decades since I read Shakespeare but this year reminded me of Caesar’s ‘A coward dies many deaths…’

    As a combat veteran who has seen truly scary sh1+, I just don’t understand people’s fear of a germ.

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